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was this model only produced 1 year and was it 2009? Besides engine size what were the differences to the F41000 312R
 

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2008 and 2009. Not too sure about the differences besides the engine. I think the slipperclutch and brakes. The rest should be small things.
 

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Throttle bodies, brakes, suspension, slipper clutch, oil pump......why ?
You forgot about the second "R"; which makes it go faster than the earlier models with only one "R". :naughty:
 

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2008 and 2009. Not too sure about the differences besides the engine. I think the slipperclutch and brakes. The rest should be small things.
to be clear the 1078 312RR was a 2 year model. There is a 2008 312R 1078 advertised in cycle trader but it has no markings of the 1078. Wasn't 1078 put on the tail. Okay I just noticed the 1078 should be on the tank, so if not onthe tank I will assume the one in cycle trader is a regular 1000
 

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to be clear the 1078 312RR was a 2 year model. There is a 2008 312R 1078 advertised in cycle trader but it has no markings of the 1078. Wasn't 1078 put on the tail. Okay I just noticed the 1078 should be on the tank, so if not onthe tank I will assume the one in cycle trader is a regular 1000
Yes. From an optical point of view the 1078 is different. It should be on the tank and tail. The fairing is also different paint scheme. If it is not like that it is very likely not one.
 

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Pretty sure that in the US (different to rest of world), the 2008 was the 998cc 312R, and the 2009 was the 1078cc 312RR. Each was a one year model.
 

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Pretty sure that in the US (different to rest of world), the 2008 was the 998cc 312R, and the 2009 was the 1078cc 312RR. Each was a one year model.
He asked produced. So 2008 and 2009 is correct. And I know; I have both.
 

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Pretty sure that in the US (different to rest of world), the 2008 was the 998cc 312R, and the 2009 was the 1078cc 312RR. Each was a one year model.
that is what I thought so if that is correct there can not be a 2008 312 RR 1078.
 

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that is what I thought so if that is correct there can not be a 2008 312 RR 1078.
So.... The 2009 produced becomes then a 2010?
And about the newer versions which are called the 2010s are actually 2011 over there?
 

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I think most of us in the US disregard 'production' date and focus exclusively on 'Model' year. My 312R was a 2008 model but I don't remember if it was made in '07 or '08. I think it was '07.

I recall when Moto Guzzi had some bikes made in '06 that they ended up not shipping to US for a long time and ended up registering them as 2008 models here. Nobody cared because we're just model year oriented.
 

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The year in which the factory actually made the bike is defined in the VIN code. The production year is the tenth digit of the 17 digit VIN.
2001 was given code 1, 2002 is code 2 and so on.
 

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My two cents...

In 2008, MV sold both a 998cc F4 R 312 and a 1078cc F4 1078 RR 312. In 2009, they sold only the F4 1078 RR 312. In 2010, MV sold the F4 1078 Edizione Finale only in Japan (with a brown seat) and a 998cc F4 model (with ugly square pipes) in the rest of the world.

Sound accurate, Noel?
 

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I think most of us in the US disregard 'production' date and focus exclusively on 'Model' year. My 312R was a 2008 model but I don't remember if it was made in '07 or '08. I think it was '07.

I recall when Moto Guzzi had some bikes made in '06 that they ended up not shipping to US for a long time and ended up registering them as 2008 models here. Nobody cared because we're just model year oriented.
Yes Kevin the 312R 998cc was made early 2007, I rode one at Hockenheim first week of May '07. We had the first 13 312Rs off the line to play with plus the 2008 910Rs. The 1078 was 'in production' too but not released until after the 312R became public. The 1078 is easy to distinguish in a pic even if you don't know what to look for, it has 1078 decals and Millesettantotto decals clearly visible, if you can't see these it's either not a 1078 or has replacement bodywork
 

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The year numbers are in the frame identification on the headstock, and both were two year bikes, R312 07 & 08, RR312 08 & 09.

I too have both, an 08 R312 and 09 RR312

The paint schemes are different, engine details, like a longer throw crank, adjustable velocity stacks, and more. The brakes went to monoblock, the slipper clutch was added in addition to the existing device that fuels cylinder 2, the rear shock and spring, the front forks, wheels, dash, CRC emblems in lieu of the flag, CRC steering damper in lieu of Ohlins, Dunlop OE tyres in lieu of Pirelli, and price went up 2k.

I didn't think they made the F4 in a 1078cc other than the RR312 where they did make a 1000cc F4 albeit a different motor really ie tune & internals etc. So, I think it's quite unique, as the first version is for it's rawness. For an out of the box bike it's just mental.

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The year numbers are in the frame identification on the headstock, and both were two year bikes, R312 07 & 08, RR312 08 & 09.

I too have both, an 08 R312 and 09 RR312

The paint schemes are different, engine details, like a longer throw crank, adjustable velocity stacks, and more. The brakes went to monoblock, the slipper clutch was added in addition to the existing device that fuels cylinder 2, the rear shock and spring, the front forks, wheels, dash, CRC emblems in lieu of the flag, CRC steering damper in lieu of Ohlins, Dunlop OE tyres in lieu of Pirelli, and price went up 2k.

I didn't think they made the F4 in a 1078cc other than the RR312 where they did make a 1000cc F4 albeit a different motor really ie tune & internals etc. So, I think it's quite unique, as the first version is for it's rawness. For an out of the box bike it's just mental.

Just my2p
Fully agree :D
 

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The year numbers are in the frame identification on the headstock, and both were two year bikes, R312 07 & 08, RR312 08 & 09.

I too have both, an 08 R312 and 09 RR312

The paint schemes are different, engine details, like a longer throw crank, adjustable velocity stacks, and more. The brakes went to monoblock, the slipper clutch was added in addition to the existing device that fuels cylinder 2, the rear shock and spring, the front forks, wheels, dash, CRC emblems in lieu of the flag, CRC steering damper in lieu of Ohlins, Dunlop OE tyres in lieu of Pirelli, and price went up 2k.

I didn't think they made the F4 in a 1078cc other than the RR312 where they did make a 1000cc F4 albeit a different motor really ie tune & internals etc. So, I think it's quite unique, as the first version is for it's rawness. For an out of the box bike it's just mental.

Just my2p
Close enough, only the 312RR is an 1078 capacity. Those are non adjustable velocity stack on either of these models, the 1078's are different to the 998's thought, bigger diameter shorter trumpets ...etc.
Same wheels, different decals, some Brembo, some Marchesini, same thing though.

micwhitt1 the square pipes is 2nd generation F4.
Erik, over here in Aus we got the 1000R in MY06, same as the 1000Senna, I believe the US only got them (1000R) almost a year later in some parts. The dealers where still selling 312RR's over here in 2011 as new, and in other parts of the world too, and so some uninformed guys come onto the forum and talk about their 2010 or 2011 model 312RR's.
You'll go nuts trying to explain it all the time.

The fact of the matter stays the same, the mechanical differences are the things that make them different in the end.
 

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Dons... when they were sold does not change when they where produced. Most of these RR's in 2008 en some in 2009 :)
 

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Yup

Dons... when they were sold does not change when they where produced. Most of these RR's in 2008 en some in 2009 :)
True Erik, that's what I meant also. :yo:
 

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Great hehehe!
 
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