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Ok I am in the market for one of these beauties and have been offered the 1000R for 23000+tax or a 06 1000s for 18999. Is the R worth the 5K difference. I will be using this bike for the street only and have a Ducati 749S. Any help would be great. If the 1000R what is the color to get. If the 06 I would go with the red and silver. Is the new 1000R so much better and worth the extra 5K or would that be to have the best and newest. :conveyer:
 

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Ok I am in the market for one of these beauties and have been offered the 1000R for 23000+tax or a 06 1000s for 18999. Is the R worth the 5K difference. I will be using this bike for the street only and have a Ducati 749S. Any help would be great. If the 1000R what is the color to get. If the 06 I would go with the red and silver. Is the new 1000R so much better and worth the extra 5K or would that be to have the best and newest. :conveyer:
Will your dealer allow you to take both on a demo ride? That's the best way to decide. Also, $19K is a good price for a '06. I got mine for $20K + a $600 jacket.

Also, the R also comes in Red/Silver but has a bit more red in the silver section. There's a picture in the gallery.

Here you go:
 

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Ok I am in the market for one of these beauties and have been offered the 1000R for 23000+tax or a 06 1000s for 18999. Is the R worth the 5K difference. I will be using this bike for the street only and have a Ducati 749S. Any help would be great. If the 1000R what is the color to get. If the 06 I would go with the red and silver. Is the new 1000R so much better and worth the extra 5K or would that be to have the best and newest. :conveyer:
I just bought a black/mono 1000R. I didn't consider a 1000S at all. I bought the R instead of a Senna. But... $19K is a good value for the '06.

Color is subjective, but my obvious preference is black. There is NO BAD MV choice. Glad you're getting one. Love the Duc, too.
 

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Appearance... Haven't come across an MV color combination causing more weak knees and increased heart rates than the red/silver with the silver star wheels. An MV F4 with a routine color combination or routine black wheels or fruitful colors (As models since have looked) could offer twice the performance of this F4 1000S and I wouldn't get it.

Performance... Egads, the F4 1000S offers more performance than just about any mortal can handle. You plan on 170mph+ on the road? Want to drag other bikes from stop lights? Zzzzzz. A thinking person notes even the 1000S is waaay overkill.

 

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This is a very interesting question. As an 'S' owner who likes the trad Red/Silver, it might be easy to say, I'll keep the $5k in my pocket and buy an 'S', you can get a radial front brake set up for about $2K of the 5 you will have saved and the performance issue, as stated above, is fairly academic on the road. I think the question can only be answered by those guys who used to have an 'S' and now have the 'R'. I remember wondering whether I should go out and swap my 750 F4 for the 1000. :rolleyes: Would I really need the extra performance etc. etc.? :crazyeyes All I can say is I don't regret making that choice, so maybe it is worth the extra for the 'R' :blah:
 

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In my opinion........

You have 2 choices....

1/ Get the 'R'

-OR-

2/ Get a jump on finding a corner in your house where you can comfortably lie in a Fetal Position.......

There is NO logic to owning an MV.

If the 'R' had silver wheels and (possibly) a red frame there is no way I would have chosen my Senna over a red and silver 'R'.......

However, I had no interest in the 'S', because I didn't like the front brakes...!

Performance issues are irrelevant. Performance issues are put in context the first time, on your favorite twisty road, some 19yr old gangbangin' kinda kid, passes you on the inside,- riding a'93 R6, on bald Cheng Shin tires...... hopefully it will be when you're hung up behind traffic!

On any modern motorcycle, ultimate performance comes down to your reluctance level.... reluctance to die!

I ride at about 80%. At 80%, I going WAAAYY the fuck faster on the Senna that any other bike I've ever ridden....... love it! Still get passed on the inside by gangbangin' kinda kids on old R6's... but now it's aways when I'm stuck behind traffic...

My suggestion: Get the 'R'
 

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Having had both bikes there is really nothing wrong with the "S" at all, BUT :naughty: If you ride an "R" and an "S" back to back you would notice the difference, just little things everywhere, better mapping manners, electrics are more thought out, just silly stuff like the headlamp doesn't come on untill the engine is running, and my 1000S would backfire every now and then and the R doesn't.
The R is also higher specced than the S, wheels, brakes etc, I also reckon that if you talked to an MV designer he would tell you there are thousands of differences between the two models---I'm still finding them! but there is no getting away from the fact it IS still basically the same bike, it's not really a new model like comparing an 04 blade with an 05 one. It's your call really, if money is not a major issue go "R" :stickpoke
 

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I got a new "S" last week and saved myself a load of money compared to the "R".It may well be true that for anyone named "Rossi" the "R" may just have the edge.But lets be honest with ourselves.For 99.9 percent of us for 99.9 percent of the time the "S" has far more performance than 99.9 percent of us could ever use.!
I have no regrets buying the "s" and i do not think i will ever part with it.It is simply "AWESOME" and looks so good in the traditional "MV" colours with those traditional star wheels.It could not ever be mistaken for anything other than "MV".
However it is your cash and you spend it how you see fit.You cannot go wrong with either bike.
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Having had both bikes there is really nothing wrong with the "S" at all, BUT :naughty: If you ride an "R" and an "S" back to back you would notice the difference, just little things everywhere, better mapping manners, electrics are more thought out, just silly stuff like the headlamp doesn't come on untill the engine is running, and my 1000S would backfire every now and then and the R doesn't.
The R is also higher specced than the S, wheels, brakes etc, I also reckon that if you talked to an MV designer he would tell you there are thousands of differences between the two models---I'm still finding them! but there is no getting away from the fact it IS still basically the same bike, it's not really a new model like comparing an 04 blade with an 05 one. It's your call really, if money is not a major issue go "R" :stickpoke
Well I had this dilemma and went for the S in red and silver without a second thought, I bought a moto corse titanium exhaust with the money that I saved which added some power (not that it was needed) sorted out the fuelling and saved some weight. I would like to upgrade the brakes when I can and that's about it. The S is an awesome bike and I love it too bits!!!
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I remember wondering whether I should go out and swap my 750 F4 for the 1000. Would I really need the extra performance etc. etc.? All I can say is I don't regret making that choice
I've been thinking about that recently. I really enjoy riding my 750 but below 7k rpm it just feels pretty awful, and by the time you get past 7k and into the power I'm already at speed-ticket speeds on most roads, and often only in first or second gear!

Having just got another ticket, this is starting to become a concern for me. I don't need a faster bike. I'm really unlikely to ever top-out the 750, even on a track day, but what I would like is a more useable motor.

I'm finding myself riding more and more on rural B-roads, and steering clear of the A-and M-roads that are more likely to be plod patrolled, but by the very nature of these roads speeds >80mph often aren't safely possible and only then in bursts. Low down grunt is more important on that kind of road. (And my 748/853 is perfect for them.)

So, I either chop the 750 in for a 1000s next year and potter about the back roads using half the bikes performance, or I decide that inline-4 sportsbikes simply aren't a viable option for me in the modern Police-state UK if I want to keep my licence.

But to keep it on topic: I was looking at the black F4-1000R at OnYerBike yesterday. £14,500 I think it is. Mmm.. if money were no object.!


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With the 750 I found it was either crawling around or best part of flat out, the 1000 is an easier bike to ride on rural B type roads, you just use the midrange of the engine, no need to red line the thing at all.
the 1000 has a similar power curve to a 999R up to where the 999 hits it's rev limiter, so it is a very useable engine, and before people start with the "I can't use what I already have" etc, if the 750 gave more midrange you would use that wouldn't you :naughty: ?
 

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Couldn't agree more!

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Appearance... Haven't come across an MV color combination causing more weak knees and increased heart rates than the red/silver with the silver star wheels. An MV F4 with a routine color combination or routine black wheels or fruitful colors (As models since have looked) could offer twice the performance of this F4 1000S and I wouldn't get it.

Performance... Egads, the F4 1000S offers more performance than just about any mortal can handle. You plan on 170mph+ on the road? Want to drag other bikes from stop lights? Zzzzzz. A thinking person notes even the 1000S is waaay overkill.

Thanks sfarson for stating my exact point, you've saved me some typing. Take the now-unavailable CLASSIC red/silver '05 and bank the rest!! The R is improved but not $5k worth! The S is all the bike you could ever hope to handle, ESPECIALLY on the street. By the way, I love mine!
 

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i think its entirley your call you wont regret it either way
i had a limit and managed to get a brand new 06 blue /silver for £10900 GBP including cat1 alarm datatag kit and a carbon hugger
i'd have liked to get the r but then again my real preference was a senna, and that would have been a devorce case to add to my cost
either way oyu'll look at it and just drool
its like having your ideal woman chained in you garage at your beck and call and needs
the s is ample for my needs and i only want to add some carbon bits and a pc may be an exhaust if i can get one cheep enough at some point
and you get the same lok off people as you pass thinking to themselves lucky basterd i won't one of those

good luck on you choice
 

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i would say you can't make a "bad" choice here between S or R. however, the "right" choice comes down to the individual. some just have to have the latest thing out there. some people are satisfied with just getting any MV...the lust item of years before there was an R. the colors...down to the individual. because i did this :jsm: when i first saw MV, i am partial to the classic red/silver over the R. but that's me.

in terms of bikes...i'd say get the R because it has the next update of the motor. like the SPR over the evoIII. it has a head specifically designed for the motor and not just 750 head. i aslo think down the line, due to racing, they will find ways to exploit the new computer and not only will it solve every fueling/power problem every f4 before it has had, it will be able to make more seamless, smooth power throughout the entire rev range. S owners or old ecu owners will be at the end of the rope with PCIII. i think one stuck in the middle could get the red/silver R and just get lower fairings and silver wheels from S or used in excellent condition. the best of both worlds...if you are so inclined.
 

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ps...does the veltro have the new ECU system? what did they do to extract so much more than the tamburini in terms of power?
 

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If the "R" had been available in "pure" red and silver I would have had one believe me, I'm not sure at all about the way they have done the new red/siver on the "R", but I do like the black/grey :)

One thing you should remember though is every year newer an MV is, it will be a better bike, an EVO2/3 will be better than a 2000 bike, the last of the 750's the "SR" will be better again, same with the 1000's, Iwould take a bet that an "R" is probably a better ride than even a Tamburini..............untill next year when an "RS"? will be better again :ahhh: It's just a natural progression thing
 
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