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Goreela 10-20-2019 05:40 PM

Dashboard cracked on 2014 F3 800
 
Hi all,

I had my dashboard crack all the way through, when parked. I havenít been able to ride it due to an injury. I pulled the cover off of the bike and the dash cracked all the way from the right side buttons all the way through the screen.

Anyone experience this?

I also went to my dealer and they said the 2014 dash has been discontinued. Anyone ever put a 2015 dash on a 2014?

Any help would be appreciated

Black_Gold_Saw 10-20-2019 07:57 PM

I think the discontinued dash is the one with red color background.
From 2015/2016 they started using a white background.

Not sure if they actually changed layout.

Goreela 10-20-2019 09:35 PM

Thanks!

PTsalas 10-21-2019 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goreela (Post 2605487)
Hi all,

I had my dashboard crack all the way through, when parked. I havenít been able to ride it due to an injury. I pulled the cover off of the bike and the dash cracked all the way from the right side buttons all the way through the screen.

Anyone experience this?

I also went to my dealer and they said the 2014 dash has been discontinued. Anyone ever put a 2015 dash on a 2014?

Any help would be appreciated

As mentioned above, the new dash has a white background and improved layout.

When you say "pulled off the cover" Did you mean rip off the cover? Im battling to get my mind how the dash got cracked? :surprise:

nigelrb 10-21-2019 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PTsalas (Post 2605537)
. . . When you say "pulled off the cover" Did you mean rip off the cover? Im battling to get my mind how the dash got cracked? :surprise:

I read this as a fabric bike cover over the whole bike. Pending Goreela's confirmation, I think the bike has been parked outside and has suffered temperature cracking, ie hot sun, cool evening.:frown2:

Goreela 10-21-2019 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PTsalas (Post 2605537)
As mentioned above, the new dash has a white background and improved layout.

When you say "pulled off the cover" Did you mean rip off the cover? Im battling to get my mind how the dash got cracked? :surprise:

No. The motorcycle cover that was on the bike

Goreela 10-21-2019 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nigelrb (Post 2605539)
I read this as a fabric bike cover over the whole bike. Pending Goreela's confirmation, I think the bike has been parked outside and has suffered temperature cracking, ie hot sun, cool evening.:frown2:

You read it correctly. I think it may be temperature cracking too, the problem is the dash looks like itís been through a crash. The extent of the damage is severe. I just canít see how a spike in temps would cause a dash to have a half inch split on the side.

I live in Northern California too. Not many huge temperature swings here

silentservice703 10-21-2019 10:00 AM

Sounds to me like something impacted your dash while the bike was stored.

christosc 10-21-2019 11:39 AM

Sorry to hear that!
I had a similar thing happen to my bike! It was parked in a secured bicycle shed and some idiot threw a single mattress on top of the whole bike (I found the mattress resting against the wall and sitting on my bike). As a result the screen buckled and bashed the dashboard. The impact caused a few of the areas around the dash to crack. I don't think it was a malicious action, more of a lack of care coupled with idiocy.
I have since done a track day and luckily the cracks have not increased.
To me it sounds like someone has dropped something accidentally over your screen. Have you checked your screen for marks?

Goreela 10-21-2019 01:59 PM

No evidence of that. No damage anywhere else and the crack starts at the bottom right. Hard to get anything in that area to hit it hard enough and not damage anything else

silentservice703 10-21-2019 02:12 PM

So your theory is that it spontaneously exploded?

Goreela 10-21-2019 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by silentservice703 (Post 2605613)
So your theory is that it spontaneously exploded?

My theory is I donít know, but if youíre dexterous enough to hit the bottom right hand corner of the dash hard enough to leave a half inch crack and not hit anything around it, including the carbon fiber fairing stay that would easily show scratches in the clear coat, feel free to demonstrate on your bike.

If not, then the only answer I have is it cracked due to weather.

silentservice703 10-21-2019 05:19 PM

Would you please post a quality picture of the phenomenon?

Goreela 10-21-2019 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by silentservice703 (Post 2605641)
Would you please post a quality picture of the phenomenon?

Sure. The bike is at the mechanics. Iíll see it tomorrow.

Goreela 10-23-2019 10:16 PM

Since this thing got sidetracked into people calling bullshit for ZERO reason, I’m posting some pics. In the pics you can clearly see the massive amounts of damage around the dashboard. Those are probably where the Orcs attacked first. Then, when Syrian forces attacked Santa Clara they fucked up the entire upper fairing. It was just brutal!

If anyone was wondering about my original question, 2015 and up dashes will work on earlier model years
https://i.ibb.co/9T9HByr/84-F6-A02-A...73-F398836.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/ctNdtwC/731-C06-B8-...07-C8-DF63.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/JdxPFvd/18-C614-EE-...-B2-FE6-CC.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/2qDgZr4/92-AA4158-1...3-F25-FAE1.jpg

DKDravis 10-24-2019 05:37 AM

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To me that looks VERY much like some hard object hit the Dash in the area indicated here in red:



Perhaps something fell on the bike while in storage? I had the tank cover damaged on my Ducati damaged by a dropped paddock stand THROUGH the two covers over it. Only noticed it when I unpacked the bike in spring.

I Challenged the other guy using the storage space, and he admitted dropping the Paddock stand on my bike .. Could the same sort of thing have happened? I very much doubt a case of "Freeze-damage" unless water had gotten in to the Dash and expanded during freezing. (Could water have been "left" in there from washing before storage?)

Oh .. and where is the bolt missing from the Carbon fairing stay?

esq'z me 10-24-2019 07:09 AM

Yeah...that's impact damage. Are those marks on the fairing stay as well? or just optical illusion from photo lighting?

Black_Gold_Saw 10-24-2019 11:03 AM

Someone thought that was a touchscreen button ;) Touched a little to hard.

Goreela 10-24-2019 11:53 AM

I know it looks like impact damage, but the dash is buried so deep it would be impossible to hit it that hard and not leave a trace anywhere else. If it were an impact, based on the pattern of the crack, it would’ve had to come from the side. That’s why I took pics of the area around it.

Like I said to the other guy, look at your dash and try to figure out how you could hit it hard enough to do that.

The bike was under a locked cover that was stretched by the mirrors

Goreela 10-24-2019 11:57 AM

Iíve been riding for over 30 years and deeply involved in the industry and racing for years. This isnít my first time looking at a broken part.

First thing I did was look for impact points

silentservice703 10-24-2019 11:57 AM

I can think of several ways to cause that damage by impact...intentionally, or accidentally.

That is certainly not freeze/thaw cycle damage.

Either way, it is certainly broken.

Goreela 10-24-2019 01:20 PM

Through a locked stretched cover? Anyway, no one answered my actual question. Thanks all

silentservice703 10-24-2019 03:21 PM

Yes...pipe comes to mind.

Goreela 10-24-2019 05:42 PM

Right.

taahir.lewis 10-25-2019 02:44 AM

I can't believe everyone is still trying to figure out what caused the damage.
Meanwhile, @Goreela is seeking advice on whether a 2015 instrument may or may not work on earlier F3 models?

nigelrb 10-25-2019 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by taahir.lewis (Post 2606289)
. . . Meanwhile, @Goreela is seeking advice on whether a 2015 instrument may or may not work on earlier F3 models?

He's already solved and advised:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goreela (Post 2606073)
. . . If anyone was wondering about my original question, 2015 and up dashes will work on earlier model years


christosc 10-25-2019 05:41 AM

Goreela,

You have asked our opinion and you got it.
I am the only person here with exactly the same issue as yours and it was definitely due to impact (the evidence was still on the bike when I got to it). No visible marks were found around the dash nor the slightest crack of paint on the front fairing or on the screen around the dash in my case either.

I seriously doubt that yours cracked due to extreme temperature fluctuations.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,

Chris

nigelrb 10-25-2019 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by christosc (Post 2606293)
Goreela,

I seriously doubt that yours cracked due to extreme temperature fluctuations. . .

Agree. After seeing the photos I accept my initial diagnosis was wrong. It's such a brutal crack. And with that in mind, if it had been caused by accident, most would simply remove any evidence of the cause. Shame, but true.:frown2:

silentservice703 10-25-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Goreela (Post 2606215)
Through a locked stretched cover? Anyway, no one answered my actual question. Thanks all

You did back in post #15.

You seem to be a bit defensive here. Several people independently suggested this was impact damage and you offhandedly discount that as impossible.

You state this: "Since this thing got sidetracked into people calling bullshit for ZERO reason, Iím posting some pics." after i asked you to post some quality pictures. This is not endearing. No one called BS to your post...we just all want to definitively know what happened. I was beginning to think you were a very young person until you comments about racing and the industry. Now I am just curious about your diagnostic capabilities and forensic experience.

California you say? Inside a garage you say? Under a locked and stretched cover you say? That must have been one hell of a temperature swing. I would have expected Plastic Deformation to occur long before Fracture with Cracking Failure. Perhaps you did have a localized intense heat event that caused Chain Scission followed by that entire area exceeding its Critical Stress Intensity Factor.....

I once loaded a very nice 2008 MV Agusta F4 312R into an enclosed trailer. The bike was well secured and well away from any impact areas. When we opened the trailer after a half-day drive, a brand new Moto Corse Titanium windscreen was shattered. Hmm, there was no other obvious impact damage and that windscreen is Polycarbonate...much like your dash cover. As you know, the windscreen cannot be impacted from the sides in any meaningful way without first impacting the mirrors. It was obviously a side impact due to the nature and location of the cracking.

After we ruled out anything we could imagine except that it must have impacted the trailer wall, someone recalled that the driver had jumped a curb pulling out of a gas station causing the trailer to lurch. Our conclusion was that the mirror also impacted the side of the trailer causing the load to transfer to the windscreen in a way that snapped the screen. There was no damage or evidence of that on the mirror.

When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. Ė Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, stated by Sherlock Holmes.

I can be a bit of a snot when someone simply decides that the recommendations of several very knowledgeable people, also with years of industry experience, are told that they are somehow dissing your superior intellect and capabilities.

You have the answer you sought .

PTsalas 10-28-2019 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Goreela (Post 2606215)
Through a locked stretched cover? Anyway, no one answered my actual question. Thanks all

You asked if anyone experienced this... Well we don't know what you experienced, hence why we asked questions relating to the crack.

The second question you asked was if anyone has changed to the new spec dash, silence on the matter is obviously clear that no, we haven't.

Have I missed the actual question?


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