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11-19-2019 07:37 AM
X81 Yeah exactly that, dump the EBS in favour of a decent slipper clutch. The EBS system is fantastic when properly controlled and a lovely addition to the bikes but its not big enough an addition to warrant the expesne of looms, valves etc.
11-19-2019 07:05 AM
esq'z me Or dump the EBS system altogether....
11-19-2019 07:02 AM
X81
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Originally Posted by ViggenF4 View Post
312 motor wont work with your current Microtec ECU, you will need the complete loom from a 312 with its ECU!!

I have a 910 motor in my 750, even though on paper the power difference is small, in real life you cant compare them, the 910 engine will walk over the 750 engine in every aspect.....



No you don't. The M232 that i use to replace the 16M ecu allows conversion to sequential injection. Data is data so we can copy that across and fill in any fields that differ slightly. Sensor calibrations are the same.


You can do this conversion with only the addition of 2 parts. Throttle bodies for injector size and exhaust system due to potentially taller engine. The only part you'll not be able to run on the conversion will be the EBS system as the std wiring loom has no facility for it, the 1000S does though so you could upgrade a 1000S fully to 312 spec.
11-12-2019 06:40 AM
ViggenF4 Once in a while complete crashed bike appears, would be a good donor for you.

Hope you find what you looking for!
11-12-2019 03:19 AM
Me748 Thanks Veggen. Just the slipper clutch that won’t transfer then.

I’ll keep an eye out for a 1000 motor in the UK (you don’t see many!)

Thanks

Pat
11-11-2019 10:09 PM
ViggenF4 For early 1000, its straight swap. Just map the ECU.
11-11-2019 03:41 PM
Me748 Not looking so positive for the motor swap!

I would be happy with an early 1000 motor which my ecu seems likely to fit. The expense of another slipper clutch adds to the cost though.

The stm slipper clutch kit I have to my Evo 1 was originally for the Evo 2/3, the threaded end of the input shaft is different between the Evo 1 and 2/3. The former being 25mm and the latter 22mm.

STM were helpful and able to provide parts to make the clutch I had fit my bike. I dont know enough about the differences between the 1000 and the 750 but I wonder if STM could supply parts to make it fit.

I’ll see what else people feel needs to be swapped out for an early 1000 rather than the 312 which seems like a step too far, but already the additional work / unknowns is beginning to build into what I would call a fools errand!
11-11-2019 06:06 AM
theknurl
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Your 750 slipper clutch won't work on a 910 or 1000 motor.......
The mainshaft on the later motors is 2mm larger......you could split the cases and change the bearing
But the primary ratio is different on the later motors
11-10-2019 10:40 PM
ViggenF4 Your ECU wont work with the 312 loom. Early 1000 with 16M, it will.
11-10-2019 04:24 PM
Me748 Hi. I think if my motor had blown and I had to change motor the 910 would be a good option if one came up at the right price but I fancy the oompth of a 1000.

I thought the microtec ECUs were essentially the same and could be programmed for various bikes but that was only an assumption.

Is it the 312 that’s more of a problem, would an earlier 1000 be more compatible?

As I mentioned I have asked Chris the same questions and I’m sure he will have chapter and verse on the matter

He did a great job on my 750 and always has time to talk anything MV.

Pat.
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