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Wheels, <Y10 and >Y10, what do they weigh, where do they fit.

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#1 · (Edited)
Some big questions out there, and some weird developments, so please share what you know.
Weight of any or all wheels, state if it's with disc's on front wheels please.
Which wheels will fit on which model bikes, are they interchangeable?
Bearing and axle sizes would be great, so would pictures if the different lay-outs.


From number2
"Okay, I don't know if someone has actually tried to fit a set of wheels from an older MV to a newer model, but I just tried and it does not work. The fork bottoms on the new bike 2012 Brutale are machined so that the spacers needed for the older wheel will not fit between the fork bottoms. The wheel from the older bike is a Marchesini Magnesium wheel and it has the spacers which are needed for the axle. This combination is about 3mm too wide. I will look again but it does not appear to work"
 
#144 ·
Do you guys think it's safe to use a spacer on the OD of the new bearing to fit into old wheels?

Spacer would be 55mm OD, 8mm thickness which would give you an ID of 47mm to accept the new bearing, and make it 10mm width like the old bearing. I might be trying this method out on a set of Marchesini wheels. Might make the spacer a 2 piece like half moons.
 
#145 ·
Bringing this thread back around after talking to Justin and seeing some pics of some spacers on a set of Marchesini wheels that came across the FS section not too long ago. I have been talking to my friend Ryan about manufacuring a front wheel spacer that would take the place of the oem front wheel spacer on the older wheels, to bring the axle size down to the newer generation MV's. This will be a one piece CNC'd or lathed wheel spacer, made out of bare billet aluminum, have a lip on the inside of each bearing to limit any movement, and be flush with the bearing surface on the outward face. Cost should be minimal as aluminum is cheap, easy to machine, and no need for any anodizing being in the wheel/bearings. I'm particularly interested in this for myself so I can use the ultra lites I have, on my 1090RR. I will post up an official group buy with specs and pricing details in the FS section once we have a first prototype made and tested out ok. I figured there may be quite a few interested in one of these besides myself... so stay tuned. If I'm missing a company or someone who is already making one, please, let me know so I'm not wasting time on this.
 
#146 ·
Update:





I will be testing this as soon as I pick up a spare front wheel bearing, since I need to remove one to install this new wheel spacer. Unfortunately, due to my buddy Ryan not having the proper machining to do this, I had to source this to another person who I have done business with in the past for some custom supercharger pulleys, so my cost on the first prototype, being the one and only, was not only more a little more expensive, but if I want to make a bulk order the price will also be a little more than I had hoped for a forum group buy.

This new wheel spacer will convert any 35mm axle wheel down to a 25mm, whether it has removable spacers on each side, or the protruding left fork bottom like on my 1090RR. After I have fitted it, and get some miles on it to ensure it is good, I will post up a group buy to gauge interest on an order of about 25 units. If I can't fill that, then I will gladly give out the info to my supplier/machinist, so you can order one yourself.
 
#148 · (Edited)
sorry for highjacking this thread but maybe you guys could clear up some questions for me.

I might have a chance to get a 6" rear wheel for my F3 from a 2009 F4 1000 312R or another one from a 2010 1078 Brutale .
- Are those the brembo superlights?
- Could you tell me if this makes any sense for the track / is there enough space to run the appropriate slick and tire warmer then?
- for now I'd only swap the rear since I didn't see a suitable front wheel for my budget yet. Do I get any disadvantages out of that?
- the front wheel of any F4 does NOT fit the F3 - even with spacers, correct?

Please tell me if that's the wrong section to ask but I figured you guys here have the most knowledge about where those wheels fit to :)
 
#149 · (Edited)
Yes, you can use any rear while for a tire size of your choice. The front wheels do not swap over because of two reasons:

1) axle size
2) even if you were to make a reducing wheel spacer to get the appropriate axle size, there is no way to keep outside pressure on the inner race of the front wheel bearing as the newer gen bikes have fork protrusions and a lip'd axle vs spacers on each side like on the first gen bikes.
 
#150 ·
Curtis, just where did you learn to count?!:stickpoke

..and just how do you know #3 is true:jsm::naughty::moon::wave::friday:
 
#151 · (Edited)
Thanks for that, I thought that would be the case... too bad.

questions still open:
- Are those the brembo superlights? (bikes they are supposed to be from: 2009 F4 1000 312R Pic 1+2 or another one from a 2010 1078 Brutale Pic 3)
- Could you tell me if this makes any sense for the track / is there enough space to run the appropriate slick and tire warmer then?
- for now I'd only swap the rear since I didn't see a suitable front wheel for my budget yet. Do I get any disadvantages out of that?
 

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#153 ·
Thanks for that, I thought that would be the case... too bad.

questions still open:
- Are those the brembo superlights? (bikes they are supposed to be from: 2009 F4 1000 312R or another one from a 2010 1078 Brutale)
- Could you tell me if this makes any sense for the track / is there enough space to run the appropriate slick and tire warmer then?
- for now I'd only swap the rear since I didn't see a suitable front wheel for my budget yet. Do I get any disadvantages out of that?
Yes, those are the Brembo superlights, if you want some I have some for sale, but you have to buy the front too, lol.

I don't see why there wouldn't be enough space, take a look at your clearance to the swing arm, it will be another 5mm closer with a 190 as opposed to a 180.

The only thing that sucks about not being able to run the matching front rim is the weight savings. It is almost 2lbs lighter than the oem forged wheels on my 1090RR. Hence why I went through the trouble of trying to fit it... which I did, just wasn't safe to run.
 
#154 ·
Those wheels will be Brembo (or Marchesini) Ultra-Lights

There should be plenty of room for any tire/tire warmer you want to run...whether it makes sense or not is up to personal taste. The 6" rim will allow a fatter tire. That will put more rubber (contact patch) on the track surface at the expense of slower transitions. The bigger tire is also heavier...think slower acceleration.

Unless you are VR/JL/MM or the like, I do not think it is worth the expense for what you would get out of it in practical use. You would simply have a fat-ass tire on your bike.
 
#156 ·
added some pics to the last post. The reason I ask: I currently have 2 sets of OEM wheels. Weight saving is expensive so I thought: if I could get that rear wheel for little money it's a start... but a 6" instead of 5.5" I currently run with a 190 K2 Slick.
 
#157 ·
Look at it this way, with the weight savings of the wheel, you can run the larger rear tire and break even in total weight, maybe even loose a tad depending on what wheel you were changing from.
 
#161 ·
Damn traction deficit!!!
 
#164 ·
I’m also interesting for this modification to put brembo superlight (35x55x10 bearing) on my 1090rr 2011 (25x47x12 bearing). To get the gap between 25 and 35 for the axle it’s not really a problem I think. But what about to center the wheel?
 
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