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02-14-2018 07:15 AM
silentservice703 Oh, I don't know Noel...I think, based on the "mechanic's" opinion, the bike should be scrapped. I'll pay $50.00 for the title and I'll go pick the bike up....
02-13-2018 07:54 PM
theknurl
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Originally Posted by nigelrb View Post
I have no oil leaks but glad I read this. The side-stand issue in particular is one I'll now be mindful of, and like 'plexiform' shall make more use of centrestand/paddock stand.
nigelrb;
I have 35,000+mi on my B4, I've welded up the bottom of the side stand twice because it was getting too short

Just check the pan and stand mounting bolts when you change the oil or see an oil leak

02-13-2018 07:47 PM
theknurl
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plexiform;
Stop making this a major event.......

Your pan bolts are loose on the left side, retorque them.....
Then go to the auto parts store and buy a 32oz squirt bottle of Gunk Citrus Engine Degreaser,
it doesn't stink like the old stuff, clean the lower part of the motor

Ride the bike and then try the talcum powder trick.....remember you may be squeezing oil out of the gasket
As long as the gasket isn't broken I wouldn't replace it, after a 2nd cleaning it still leaks .....
Drain the oil, remove the pan, clean everything with acetone or lacquer thinner and use RTV silicone on both sides
of the gasket, no more than 0.005" thick

02-13-2018 01:11 PM
nigelrb I have no oil leaks but glad I read this. The side-stand issue in particular is one I'll now be mindful of, and like 'plexiform' shall make more use of centrestand/paddock stand.
02-13-2018 11:35 AM
Teeps
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What to do if the oil cup bolts have already been over tightened?
If the threads in the engine block are stripped out.
A thread insert will have to be installed. Time-Sert or Heli-Coil.
02-13-2018 08:22 AM
silentservice703 Upon removal, stiction will make you think they are over tightened. When restoring them, simply tighten to spec.
02-13-2018 08:08 AM
plexiform What to do if the oil cup bolts have already been over tightened?
02-13-2018 08:06 AM
silentservice703 The side stand mounts to the oil pan. (Oil Cup in the engine manual). The side stand aggravates the loosening of the Oil Cup fixing bolts. i.e. they loosen over time and use of the side stand.

The Oil Cup fixing bolt torque is 10 nm. This is a very light torque.

The side stand fixing bolts get torqued to 25 nm
02-13-2018 08:00 AM
plexiform I just read about the side stand problem. It is bolted to the side of the oil pan therefore the more it sits on the side stand the more constant pressure on the bolts holding the oil pan in place which eventually causes loosening and oil leaking. this is probably my problem since my bike sat on the side stand for a long time not being ridden. I will change the gasket and tighten bolts to spec and then keep it on the center stand i have now to avoid this side stand issue. I suppose another solution would be to just ride it more. Will have to work on that also.
02-13-2018 07:48 AM
plexiform Will give it a shot today. Do you know what the torque spec is for the oil pan bolts? What is the side stand mount aggravation?
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