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12-09-2017 12:41 AM
[email protected] JDgun as far as Lorenzo goes his style is in the Norm these days.Longer wider lines high midcorner but not trying to push 10/10ths on the out drive. In short not much different than dovi ect Lorenzo just seems to be very effected by problems/down turns in momentum ect. Example: Lorenzo is GREAT on fast starts on cold tires , but pass him after he makes that great start Lorenzo falls back through the field .
12-09-2017 12:21 AM
[email protected] With Spain now Flat tracking as a sport I am sure you will find more riders developing the Marquez style again
12-08-2017 11:50 PM
[email protected] If anyone has a tape of the 2007 season you wilsee the 2007 Ducati was SO much faster than the competition it left them coming off the corners like they where tied to a post. Stoner to Rossi was like Lorenzo to Rossi . When push came to shove Rossi could pull a 1/10th or 2/10ths on them . Marquez, Spencer ,Roberts SR where the only riders who could do the style of slow in fast out and also keep high mid corner speed . I can remember the ..Dream Team ..of Rainey , Lawson as riders with Roberts as the team Manager. The dream turned sour when Roberts would be instructing Lawson and rainey how to ride and then jumping on a spare bike and dropping 1/2 second off of rainey and lawsons times . You can imagine the ego problems just bringing all progress to an abrupt halt .
12-08-2017 02:37 PM
jdgun I'm ready to see Lorenzo back on a package he can ride... Would be great to see him on a Honda, LOL... Once Rossi goes the class of consistent riders takes another big hit..
12-08-2017 01:47 PM
ceepee I'm not saying it was a bad machine, Capirossi had already given ducati their first gp win on it however Bayliss's race was as wild card and as such maybe he was just out to hammer it regardless , he wasn't involved in that championship and had nothing to lose probably why he ran away with the race, my point is really that Stoner is one of those riders that suddenly stop crashing as they find the limit and go on to dominate on a bike that others struggle with, a bit like Marquez except he still crashes a lot , lord knows where Honda go if Marques gets injured, he seems to be the only Honda rider that consitantly performs on the bike a bit like Stoner
12-07-2017 05:48 PM
jdgun
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I think its the bike normally but then you come across Casey Stoner explain why he's the only one who could do justice to the earlier

GP Ducati's

I am a HUGE Stoner fan, but you know Bayliss wild carded one race in 2006 and won, the 2007 bike Stoner rode was based on that bike.. So you cant say it was a bad machine... He also did manage to win races and be competitive on the bike Ducati unleashed on him (frameless) and others who could do nothing with it.


Wish he stayed on the Honda as he would of had another 1-2 titles under his belt.
12-07-2017 11:30 AM
ceepee I think its the bike normally but then you come across Casey Stoner explain why he's the only one who could do justice to the earlier

GP Ducati's
12-07-2017 10:46 AM
jdgun There is many ways to look at things...

I for one say it is an equal pairing of Rider and Machine.... unless of course you have the best bike on the grid and have custom tires made for you for each race (Rossi the not so GOAT). Dovi has obviously stepped up his riding this past season, and I think Stoner has quite a bit to do with it, mentoring him and also in the development of the bike.

if Rhea stayed with Honda, Chaz would have now had 2 or 3 titles, instead of zero. but he didn't and will take 2018 WSBK.
If Lorenzo stayed with Yamaha he would of been fighting for the title this year if not won, but he went Ducati and now sucks.
Marquez, can ride anything I think... But he lacks the ability to build a bike or so it appears.
Stoner, could ride anything & perhaps give that development advice which has helped Ducati this past season?

So many variables to the game, but I would say adaptability as a rider, and a package that can meet the needs of a rider and give them the confidence to press harder is what will win. just like Marquez shows every weekend, crash or win.
12-06-2017 11:02 PM
[email protected] Definatly Cars are the opposite . Today I out rode a 2015 Kawasaki zx10R. I am not a good rider but my Triumph Sprint st 1050 is a much more nimble ride than the KawasakiZX10R. Got to go lye down feet are blowing up with water and wont go back down not good heart problem most likely. Ironic since I have been in such good shape all my life and family freaky streng. If Something bad happens. Nice knowin you
12-06-2017 09:26 AM
silentservice703 So, Jake, you are in the "it's the rider" category then?
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