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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-05-2016, 01:52 PM Thread Starter
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Turn off ABS for Wheelies



I am not riding on the track yet, but on the road, on occasion I like to power wheelie and change gears in the air. On the TVL, which I have only owned for a month, I have to stop and disengage the ABS before the wheelie. On my GS, I could turn off the ABS on the fly. I do not feel the need to wheelie often, but only when riding with a friend or on the occasional after work to release some steam moment.
What do you guys do?

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Why would the ABS have anything to do with wheelies?

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Turn off traction control for wheelies, I can't see why ABS would cut power while doing a wheelie?


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My bike wheelies with the TC on. Why would TC stop wheelies?
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Mine does wheelies with TC on as well. I just thought TC could cut in if you do a long enough wheelie for the front wheel to slow down compared to the rear wheel speed.


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Don't think the MV TC looks at front wheel speed just rear, rpm & gear and expected speed from that. Front wheel speed sensor is for ABS.

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Mine does wheelies with TC on as well. I just thought TC could cut in if you do a long enough wheelie for the front wheel to slow down compared to the rear wheel speed.
i may be wrong but i thought the TC was just for the rear wheel and its primitive anyway on my F3

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i may be wrong but i thought the TC was just for the rear wheel and its primitive anyway on my F3
I very well could be wrong, I'm far from an expert on the electronics on these things. I was purely assuming it takes into account front wheel speed, if it doesn't, than TC would have 0 effect.


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I understand ABS is the brakes and I can turn off traction control. On my GS , the ABS, could be turned off while riding and had to be to wheelie. If the ABS was left on and you gassed it in first or second, the front tire would only come up for a split second and the sensors would put the tire back on the ground. I think it was the rear brakes putting the tire back down. I thought I would have to do the same on the TVL. I don't know what the traction control has to to do with the ABS, if anything. I will try it tomorrow with ABS on, traction control on 4 and report back. Surely, I don't have to stop and fiddle with buttons to do a wheelie. I don't really like the feeling of electronics braking my wheelie and was trying to avoid it. I do like the safety features on otherwise.
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Maybe you GS had anti-wheelie? I know the S1000RR did and they might share the same electronics package?

I'm pretty sure the MV's electronics package isn't as sophisticated, for instance the TC does not measure front wheel speed (my Brutale 800 didn't have ABS and so had no front wheel sensors) nor does it measure the bikes learn angle like some other systems.

It does have rear wheel lift mitigation though so if you want to pull a stoppie, you will have to turn off the ABS for that.

My mate had a Panigale and he had to turn off/turn down TC for that to wheelie otherwise the bike would rise up, he'd get 20 yards and it would slam down squashing his nuts on the tank. So I'd guess Ducatis system measures differences between front and rear wheel speeds?

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