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who this bike is for

Forums often end up having a lot of questions about reliability and complaints about problems large and small, less so about what is good about the bike. I know when I was a potential buyer, I came here to learn as much as I could as there just weren't (m)any TVs in the states.

While riding into work this morning, I started thinking (while dodging cell-phone gazing drivers) about who this bike is for. Typically a certain design is targeted at an increasingly small demographic, as we're in an era of multiple models/variants and specialization.

For years I've lusted after MVs, but never fit on them. Tight legroom is a no-go for me so no sport bikes, and even Brutales weren't a solution. Then the Stradale and Rivale come along, but I found them too motard for my taste - I don't like to fill my tank every hour, nor do I like sitting on the front wheel . Then the TV comes along, and I think, "finally".

So who is the TV really for?

1. A taller or "more mature" rider who always wanted an MV but didn't really fit on one.

2. Someone who really wants a sport bike but wants/needs to carry some stuff or sit more upright.

3. A person who misses the old Ducati ST2/3/4 models, and wants an even more beautiful version.

4. A rider who want to embarrass most sport bike riders with "just a touring bike."

5. Someone who appreciates form and function.

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I am 56 and this is my first MV. Most of my riding is at the weekends and touring a few times a year over in France. I don't commute or ride hard all the time. I suppose I have got lazy!

I took the Turismo out for a test ride not really thinking I was going to like it. I had read all the past stories of bad fuelling etc on the MV's. But I was really impressed when I rode it. Fuelling spot on, comfortable, great midrange and for lazy old me the quickshifter was the next best thing to automatic.

For me its the following

1. Something that I could tour with a good tank range but at the same time could get the heart racing with a sporty side.
2. I wanted something light, had enough of heavy touring bikes.
3. I do not commute these days so my bike choices are usually via the heart (I own a little Guzzi as well)
4. Wanted all the electronics for a safer ride.
5. I wanted something I could look at while I sat in the garage after polishing it and think that looks good. That pride of ownership.

Would I have bought it as a commuter? Not really, there are plenty of cheaper bikes for that job.
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I am 56 and this is my first MV. Most of my riding is at the weekends and touring a few times a year over in France. I don't commute or ride hard all the time. I suppose I have got lazy!

I took the Turismo out for a test ride not really thinking I was going to like it. I had read all the past stories of bad fuelling etc on the MV's. But I was really impressed when I rode it. Fuelling spot on, comfortable, great midrange and for lazy old me the quickshifter was the next best thing to automatic.

For me its the following

1. Something that I could tour with a good tank range but at the same time could get the heart racing with a sporty side.
2. I wanted something light, had enough of heavy touring bikes.
3. I do not commute these days so my bike choices are usually via the heart (I o
wn a little Guzzi as well)
4. Wanted all the electronics for a safer ride.
5. I wanted something I could look at while I sat in the garage after polishing it and think that looks good. That pride of ownership.

Would I have bought it as a commuter? Not really, there are plenty of cheaper bikes for that job.
That could have been written by me. Same age, same criteria, only difference is I haven't owned heavy touring bikes, but most of the bikes I was looking at before the TV were heavy touring or adventure bikes.

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I`m 52 and a long time Ducati rider with a couple of Guzzis along the way too. I`ve arrived at owning a TV as none of the Japanese brands appeal at all , same for BMW although the R1200rs is close but a bit heavy. No current or relatively recent Ducati bikes have made me want to splash out and I`m not comfortable any more on the older ones I like such as the 900ss. In fact sports bikes are out now as my knees cant take more than about 30 minutes of rearsets.
I`ve only had my TV a couple of weeks and done 200 miles so far so I need to get some in over the next few months to really comment on it but so far so good.
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Forums often end up having a lot of questions about reliability and complaints about problems large and small, less so about what is good about the bike. I know when I was a potential buyer, I came here to learn as much as I could as there just weren't (m)any TVs in the states.

While riding into work this morning, I started thinking (while dodging cell-phone gazing drivers) about who this bike is for. Typically a certain design is targeted at an increasingly small demographic, as we're in an era of multiple models/variants and specialization.

For years I've lusted after MVs, but never fit on them. Tight legroom is a no-go for me so no sport bikes, and even Brutales weren't a solution. Then the Stradale and Rivale come along, but I found them too motard for my taste - I don't like to fill my tank every hour, nor do I like sitting on the front wheel . Then the TV comes along, and I think, "finally".

So who is the TV really for?

1. A taller or "more mature" rider who always wanted an MV but didn't really fit on one.

2. Someone who really wants a sport bike but wants/needs to carry some stuff or sit more upright.

3. A person who misses the old Ducati ST2/3/4 models, and wants an even more beautiful version.

4. A rider who want to embarrass most sport bike riders with "just a touring bike."

5. Someone who appreciates form and function.

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4. YES
5. YES
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In fact sports bikes are out now as my knees cant take more than about 30 minutes of rearsets.
I`ve only had my TV a couple of weeks and done 200 miles so far so I need to get some in over the next few months to really comment on it but so far so good.
At age 54, and decades of various sport injuries, motorcycle and bicycle crashes, there is no way my knees and back will tolerate a tight riding position. Even the Brutale was brutal on my knees.

After many ears on an R1200GS, I decided I wanted something a bit less industrial. A year ago I picked up one of the new Tiger 800s (the XRx - road version) and it frankly is a terrific bike. But it isn't really what you'd call aesthetically pleasing, and it lacks some drama. I was close to getting another Multistrada (had a 1st gen version) and then the TV hit. I read everything I could but until you climb on it you don't know. Finally got a test ride and then had to have it. Still have the Tiger as that is the "calm 2-up bike" while the TV is the "fun solo/2-up bike."

I'm coming up on 2K miles on the TV. Still makes me giggle. Still wish there was a top box but have pretty much given up on that - which is fine as my wife has adjusted and we'll just do more 2-up on the Triumph. Only other thing I want to mess with is seat height as I want to get a hair more legroom. May go to a semi-local guy and have him redo the seat about an inch higher. Did that with the GS, and with the Tiger bought a Touratech seat that was 1" taller. Makes a big different to the knees...
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All of the above.

I'm looking to buy a TV in a few months once I've sorted a house move and other boring life-shit like that.

To me, the TV seems like 'the bike I've been looking for all my life.' Been lusting since the first Eicma photos surfaced (and loved the concept those MV interns did a few years previously.)

I'm 56 & always loved the fully faired, Italian sportsbike look but at my age and 6ft 2" height, its just not an option. I've always liked upright bikes - like Yamaha's TDM. My first big bike in 2005 was an original model Multistrada - a fantastic bike and so much better than the over-powered farkle-fest that is the much more successful replacement.

Then in 2009 I bought a KTM 990SMT, the very first month they were first available. Likewise, a fantastic bike with no phoney dual purpose pretensions. (I ride enduro so I have zero interest in riding anything heavier than a DRZ400 in mud or across country. A 2-stroke 250cc or even a 125cc is just fine especially for the technical, trials type stuff.)

I commute, tour and scratch. The TV ticks all the do-it-all, practical, upright, road-focussed boxes but also adds Italian style, beautiful design & components and the latest electronic safety aids. What's not to like?
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So it seems the TV is built for a mid 50's owner who's always wanted/had an MV but hasn't the body anymore to cope with an F4

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So it seems the TV is built for a mid 50's owner who's always wanted/had an MV but hasn't the body anymore to cope with an F4
you forgot the tall and handsome part, but other than that, correct

Actually, I still want an F3. Maybe yoga can turn back the clock. And actually in reality the older rider is exactly what MV needs to help keep them afloat. Can usually afford the cost of entry, and often will be brand-loyal. Just because I'm old doesn't mean I like fugly bikes (though I did own a GS ). The sport-touring play is a good move for them. After all, Porsche sells more SUVs now than 911s...

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