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M50 BREMBO brake calipers

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I stumbeld on some M50 brake calipers coming off a panigale
on ebay..(still for sale haven't bought them yet..)
I own a 2012 brutale rr and have the M40 items and the M50 looks a lot better in my opinion.
After cheking around it now seems that the master brake cyl on the panigale's is 17mm , for in conjunction with the new M50's for a better
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I just mountend a a set of brembo rcs pumps(so a panigale brake pump is now out off the question) the master brake cyl is 19mm on this set of rcs.
would that be a problem? (dont want any over agressive brakes..)
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Ok I got it loud and clear..
that"s a big NO then...
thanx for the post..
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fyi apart from the rcs17, you can also use the stock panigale master. hope this helps.

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I thought the RCS 19 has both 18 and 20 settings? If you have one that is switchable the 18 setting should work fine. Pads, brake lines, fluid and rotors have a part to play in the feel and power of the whole system.

I use the M50's with a Brembo Billet 18 MC with Z04 pads, Ate Super blue fluid, Spiegler lines, T drives and they work excellent. Did a lot of testing to come up with a combination I like on track. Best of Luck

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I thought the RCS 19 has both 18 and 20 settings? If you have one that is switchable the 18 setting should work fine. Pads, brake lines, fluid and rotors have a part to play in the feel and power of the whole system.

I use the M50's with a Brembo Billet 18 MC with Z04 pads, Ate Super blue fluid, Spiegler lines, T drives and they work excellent. Did a lot of testing to come up with a combination I like on track. Best of Luck
It'll work with a 18, but much better with the 17 Panigale m/c designed for it, it's really a well documented story by now.

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[QUOTE=Ducati23;1901225]I thought the RCS 19 has both 18 and 20 settings? If you have one that is switchable the 18 setting should work fine. Pads, brake lines, fluid and rotors have a part to play in the feel and power of the whole system.


No the rcs19 stands for 19mm master cylinder..you cant change that..
the 18 and 20 stand for the swivel position , this can be alterated..
its the position from the center off the hole off the lever to the center of the pushrod that pushes the master cylinder...this can be set to 18 or 20 mm for more feel or director braking.

As Donsy sais a 18mm will work but a 17mm master cylinder will work best
mine is a 19mm so I'm out..
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What's the bore size on the OEM MV master cylinders ?

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It'll work with a 18, but much better with the 17 Panigale m/c designed for it, it's really a well documented story by now.
For what it's worth - I tested the 17 with this setup and ended up using the 18. With the 17 I found too much lever travel and not fine enough control trailing into the apex. Also I wasn't happy with the brake power available once the brakes were hot. Feel was okay but with the 18 I get a bit more brake power with less movement. The fine control while trailing is better, less lever movement. I tested a 19 as well but it felt sort of wooden, not enough feel at the lever.

When I did these tests I went through a bunch of pads and came to a liking of the new SBS racing pads and the Brembo Z04 pads. I found that some popular racing pads were not to my liking - Braking, Performance Friction, Galfer, Vesrah and EBC. Reasons varied too much initial bite, not enough bite, too much change in feel when hot, too much lever pressure required after initial bite etc.

I didn't really care what street riders said about this. I am only ever on track and like brakes that work a specific way for my riding style.

The easiest way to crash is losing the front trailing into a corner. For me with the brakes, suspension and tires setup the way I like that possibility is greatly reduced.

Documented or not doesn't matter to me. Maybe the 17 works better for street use, I wouldn't know anything about that. I did my own research and testing. I posted the setup I use and it works great for me. Cheers all

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I and Ian on here change out our F4 1000 with M50 and Brembo Master 17mm so far I am stay with the spec, love the feel on the caliper & Master on 1199 on the track.
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