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Good point Phil. Can I reuse my rear chain ring?

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I haven't upgrade the longer swingarm, but Noel told me last year when we had lunch together, you might want to ask him how many more linkage to add on your old chain


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Good point Phil. Can I reuse my rear chain ring?
Are you sticking with 525 chain or converting to 520. You'll need to get a full 120 or 118 link chain and cut to suit your sprocket sizing. Rivet link.

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I have a 2010 long swingarm on my F4......thanks to Joe

I'm using a Mitch Hub (#2) and 1st gen axle, spacer and sprocket carrier

if you use a 2nd gen hub you MUST use a 2nd gen axle, to support the inner needle

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Are you sticking with 525 chain or converting to 520. You'll need to get a full 120 or 118 link chain and cut to suit your sprocket sizing. Rivet link.
Might as well go 520 with new sprockets front and back.

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If you use the old adjuster you will need to add a spacer to take up the extra width on the swingarm side.
So I test fit everything, and it is as you say Al, you'll need a spacer between the two sides of the adjuster at the swingarm, easy enough to come by though. Curious if the newer gen adjuster fits perfect into the older gen suspension rocker arm. It may be that might be worth upgrading that too.... The old vs new swingers are noticeably different in weight... just on the arm scale alone.

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The newer rocker on the f4 has a different pivot point and won't work with the older shock. The adjuster is also a different length as a result. I think that the later brutale stuff might have the same geometry as the older setup, but I haven't verified the specs on the pivot or adjuster. I know the frame plates and shock are more similar to the older f4 than the newer. The 2010+ brutale rocker and adjuster is my best guess for a bolt on setup.
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Thanks Al

I picked up a swingarm and hub from a 2013 F4R, and will be following Noel and Al's lead to put it on, I will let you know how I make out. It seemed like a no brainer for a first gen track bike upgrade. I happily let the mg hub I had go to R1andrew's phoenix, with the funds going evenly into the 2nd gen swinger and hub. It is certainly longer and noticeably lighter, so for the cost, I am very happy.

Comparing the first and second gen hubs in hand, they finally got it right. Shouldn't have taken 10 years though.
Guys, please confirm if a 2013 F4R swing arm and rear hub is fully compatible with my F4 312R or B4 910R, both with TTX?
If so, do i also have to get the new rear wheel axle shaft or is the old one ok?
And what about the axle that bolts the swing arm to the frame? Can the old one be used or do i need the new one?
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Guys, please confirm if a 2013 F4R swing arm and rear hub is fully compatible with my F4 312R or B4 910R, both with TTX?
If so, do i also have to get the new rear wheel axle shaft or is the old one ok?
And what about the axle that bolts the swing arm to the frame? Can the old one be used or do i need the new one?
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To use 2013 hub you need the later axle too, pivot bolt is the same for both

I'd use the early cush drives they are lighter and don't have rubber failures

Someone else will need to comment on TTX compatibility I have no idea
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To use 2013 hub you need the later axle too, pivot bolt is the same for both

I'd use the early cush drives they are lighter and don't have rubber failures

Someone else will need to comment on TTX compatibility I have no idea
Thanks Noel
I was set to buy a 2013 swing arm and hub, but i think i'll hold on since the F4 has been sitting for some years now and i only ride B4 every now and then
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