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Tips on how Wheelie for beginners

Hi, got a dragster RR. And want to learn how to wheelie the bike whitout ending up wrecking it on a track.


Can some more experienced help me on some tips on how to start ?


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Here's one of the tons of videos on youtube:


Here's a testimonial:

https://www.bike-urious.com/1-2-enro...ie-university/


It may behoove you to look up wheelie schools in your area. Yeah, such things were self learned in the old days but you don't really want to tear up the suspension or drop your new MV...

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Here's one of the tons of videos on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY0h82cEyrA

Here's a testimonial:

https://www.bike-urious.com/1-2-enro...ie-university/


It may behoove you to look up wheelie schools in your area. Yeah, such things were self learned in the old days but you don't really want to tear up the suspension or drop your new MV...


Have seen some. But they often go in on TC. And what to best use in the start.

Therfor i ask here. Whete some probably have testet befor me




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Hi, got a dragster RR. And want to learn how to wheelie the bike whitout ending up wrecking it on a track.


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Everyone is different and I can only go on personal experience, but I taught myself and how I now teach others is as follows:-

Don't try to wheelie.

Start by taking off from the traffic lights as fast as you can. On the occasions you feel the front to lift, put it down straight away.

Now practice putting it down slowly as soon as it starts lifting. This will give you the throttle control when in about a years time you are wheeling properly to keep it at the balance point (think of it as a balance area and not point).

The trick is to put the front wheel down as slowly as possible. As soon as it lifts, you will sh1t yourself and think you are going to loop it. Chances are, you're just expanding the forks and the tyre hasn't even left the tarmac...don't worry, this is normal. Still practice putting it down slowly.

Try accelerating quickly at say 50% throttle to just before the power comes in (9K revs? Not sure on your bike) then snapping it fully open to help lift it. You can also roll off slightly then crack it open - this has the effect of loading up / compressing the forks so they then unload and when they do, snap open the throttle.

When you start doing stand ups, you can also bounce the front a bit to help.

As you get used to lifting the front slightly, and then putting it down with control, try just letting it rise a bit higher each time before putting it down slowly again. Again, start low and keep practicing putting it down slowly. As the wheel lifts, you will start by putting it down too quickly and snapping it shut, but over time as it lifts you'll get used to rolling off the throttle instead, which in turn will control the rate of lift of the front wheel. As the wheel gets higher, you need less throttle to keep the wheel afloat, until you're at the balance point / area and you'll be going down the road on the back wheel with a neutral throttle, giving it tiny inputs to keep the wheel there.

As you get higher and higher, you will feel a point where you are on the balance point / area and little throttle movements will keep you there. It's a lot higher than you think but with practice you'll get there.

Be prepared for lots of practice and don't rush it - remember, put it down slowly first then work on height once you've mastered touching down gracefully. Imagine the front wheel 10cm off the tarmac, but going along at that height. You'll never keep it there as you'll soon run out of revs as you will need lots of throttle to stop it dropping. Try not to rev to the limiter either, putting it back down before the limiter makes you put it down.

Do the above in first gear as this will also teach you throttle control. When you have mastered the art, try second gear over undulations in the road / humps.

I always wheelie in second gear as it's not as hard to control as first gear, and keep it in that gear. Years of rebuilding gearboxes as I used to do (clutchless) gearchanges back then, and rounded off lots of gear dogs and bent selector forks. I don't understand how quickshifters get around this problem as it's effectively the same thing (in my racing days many years ago, we used the kill switch to change gear and kept the throttle pinned). Some people go through the box, I just stick with 2nd gear as 100mph stand up wheelies are good enough for me.

Others wheelie just as well with the clutch - I personally don't like it as it comes up too quickly for me, but feel free to try it.

Uphill is easiest, especially if you're riding into a wind, to keep the front up. Downhill with a tail wind is tricky and hard to keep it going - you haveto go further back to get to the balance point / area which feels un-natural.

Most say cover the back brake for that just incase situation - me personally I don't, rolling off has always been enough and that's why I tell people to practice putting it down slowly first, as this gives you the throttle control to lift it slowly, go along for as long as you want, and put it down slowly.

Invest in a steering damper.

Expect to chew through rear tyres and chain and sprockets.

Enjoy it, it's great fun when you master it.

Good luck. Any questions then just ask. The above is my way from self taught only.Name:  _DSC3586_1561055001913.JPG
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