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initial Running in, of new engine

How are you guys running in your new 800cc engines, whether dragster, brutale, F3

you slowly build up the revs as miles go on?, and how did you get on with the 500 mile service

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Wow, this is the first time that question has been asked....

Probably right behind "Which Tyres...." or "Which oil...."

The answer to this question is highly subjective. My personal opinion is to simply ride the bike like you will ride the bike. The engine has been to redline on a dyno for testing and it really doesn't care what you do to it. Some say varying engine speed and not droning at a constant RPM helps seat things and wear them in evenly.

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I know I am a bit odd, but I actually follow the recommended break-in process...at least for the most part. Occasional full power blasts don't hurt anything, as long as the engine is thoroughly warmed up.

Warm the engine before riding....or even revving the engine. Just let it idle after start until the temp comes off "cold".

Vary load on the engine, which means most normal riding. Freeway droning requires modulated throttle/rpm with occasional acceleration and coasting.

Don't run extended periods of high rpms/loads.

Mostly, break-in is to give transmission components, plain bearing surfaces (cams and crank), and other moving parts time to get to know each other and mate their surfaces smoothly.

Not to mention brake and suspension parts.....and YOU. You need to become familiar with your new bike.

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Im definitely not an expert. Nor do I know what to do to get the best cylinder seal. All I can tell you is my experience and that my bike doesnt burn oil.
*Im at 2500 total miles now*

So, I bought Mileena brand new with an rev limiter at 8500rpm. (european A2 license bs)
The way I rode it, is loading the engine as in semi-hard accelerating (not pinning it) not bumping it onto the revs limiter changing normally up the gears and let the bike roll out on its engine braking
Over and over again for first service interval(600 miles).

From 600 to 2000 miles similar riding. Load the engine every now and then and used engine braking. (Go to custom mode and set engine braking to normal mode. That way the engine brakes harder on its own than in sport mode)
from 2000 to 2500 I got access to full power (15.500 rpm) and I build it up from 8.000 to 10.000 rpm. 10.000 to 12.000 and 12.000 to 15.000.

I didnt follow the manual as it says how to increase more RPM the more miles you ride.
I just loaded up the engine from the get go but never went into top gear and pinning it to the rev limiter.
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I'm with @Black_Gold_Saw on this one.

Above all, be smooth - no jerky on or off throttle. No long periods of idling. When the engine is fully warm, take it from low RPM up to maybe 3/4 of redline in a single gear and then off throttle all the way back down w/o a down shift. A long off throttle while in gear pulls oil up around the rings which cools and lubes any hot spots. Then ride a little (smoothly) and do again. As the miles accumulate, keep pushing the RPM. This is Kevin Cameron's advice BTW and I have had good results following it. With CAD designed and CAM produced parts these days, the tolerances and therefore the engines are so much better that, according to Mike Duzik a Ducati expert, they break in almost instantaneously. They're unlike the old bikes (except BMW) which were built using yardsticks.
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Break-in (running-in) is not just about pistons, rings and cylinders. Those parts are pretty much bedded in at the factory on the dyno.

It's all the other moving parts in the machine....camshaft journals lobes and tappets, fork slider bushings and transmission parts....etc etc

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All great advice above. I noticed on my Dragster RR that the suspension smoothed out also between brand new and about 1500 miles.
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Wow, this is the first time that question has been asked....

Probably right behind "Which Tyres...." or "Which oil...."

The answer to this question is highly subjective. My personal opinion is to simply ride the bike like you will ride the bike. The engine has been to redline on a dyno for testing and it really doesn't care what you do to it. Some say varying engine speed and not droning at a constant RPM helps seat things and wear them in evenly.

Sorry if you feel this this is a constantly asked question, but as I have not received the bike as of yet and do not have the owners manual/hand book as of yet I thought I would ask the views of people who already own,
In the past I have purchased new F4's and ran them in; within reason of owners manual advice and had no issues, I am not new to bikes, but I do like to hear the expertise of others who own and share knowledge.

Things change over the years with engines etc so I was looking for pointers, obviously when it comes to brakes, tyres etc you always take same line of care with them.

Thankfully some have given some good advice of which I am grateful ---> appreciated guys, thank you
The bike will be getting delivered tomorrow and I will also chat with the bike shop and get their advice also.
I also know roughly what mapping set up and again this was simply due to asking guys who already have experience of this bike.
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when it comes to tyres / oil, dont worry I know exactly what I need, so wont need to ask on here.
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thanks again to all who assisted with good advice.
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@SAROY: What I feel is that there are questions that are asked frequently that are very subjective and have no true answer. I gave you my advice after a tongue in cheek response that should have set the tone for a lively discussion...and it did.

You got the expected answers of: "Just ride it", "Ride it in incrementally higher RPM", "Follow the Manual precisely" and I was surprised by the missing "Ride it like you stole it".

An engine is and engine is an engine. They, and the vehicles in which they reside, break in the same. All manuals essentially read the same: Don't be an idiot, learn your ____________, read your manual, and follow the break in rules. Common sense crap to keep a selling entity's liability lower.

The other side of that coin is that no one seems to use the ADVANCED SEARCH function to see what information....and there is a lot of it...that exists already.

Sorry if I ruffled your feathers with an actual answer instead of what you expected.

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