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Track Day formation Comparison

CLUB A
Four 15min sessions
- 1 session every hr for 7 hrs is 1hr 45min riding time

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Two 30 minute sessions each hour
- 1 session every hr for 7 hrs is 3hrs and 30min riding time


Cost Evaluation

$175 (avg. cost for track day) for 1hr 45min riding time
$250 (My proposed cost for future track day) for 3hrs 30min riding time

To equal 3hrs and 30 minutes of riding time with club A you would have to pay for 2 track days which would cost $350. Riding under the 30 minute format would save you $100 every time you ride the track. Plus less clutter. No more than 20 to 25 riders per group. ...and no crappy Membership fees.


...what say you?!

Am I the only one seeing this? If I can set up about 5 or 6 of these each year I may never ride with clubs again.

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If you set up 5 or 6 each year you should offer some sort of season pass. I'm not sure I'm sold on the 30 minute sessions. Being old and feeble, I'm wasted after 20 minutes.

Tony's track days is $225-$250 per day and they usually are at Loudon. No bargain there. I can ride at Loudon with my license for $150 for the day.

Team Promotion is around $200 per day, they usually have 3 run groups.

Sport bike track time is about $180 per day, 3 run groups.

Absolute cycle, nesba, et all are around $200 per day as well.

Will your events be offering instruction and if so who are the instructors? How many first timers will you get and do you want first timers? Perhaps you could set yourself apart by offering just intermediate and advanced riding groups.
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Will your events be offering instruction and if so who are the instructors? How many first timers will you get and do you want first timers? Perhaps you could set yourself apart by offering just intermediate and advanced riding groups.
Troy Bayliss hasn't returned my call. I think he's gonna take that job back at Ducati.


Actually, TeamPro and Absolute have $100 track days now. I'm interested to see how that will play out because aside from their membership fees I don't see how they will make money. I can't see them having any less than 120 riders on the track on any given day. 120 riders at $100 doesn't even cover track rental fees at most of the big tracks.

It looks like they are in some type of war and are trying to put each other out of business.


BTW, I forgot CAG was a bonafide racer now. Excuuuuuuse me.

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Just because I have the license, doesn't mean I'm a racer. I just got it so I could go the the practice sessions at Loudon on Thursdays. Two groups all day, $150. I doubt I will ever progress past the rookie race.

Team promotion has $100 days now? How did I miss that?
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Just because I have the license, doesn't mean I'm a racer. I just got it so I could go the the practice sessions at Loudon on Thursdays. Two groups all day, $150. I doubt I will ever progress past the rookie race.

Team promotion has $100 days now? How did I miss that?
Check the website. $295 membership gets you $100 track days and at some tracks $75.

....I'm honestly not sure how they are going to pull this off. Absolute sent me an email the other day with something similar.

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30 min sessions seem like a lot......you will get alot of burnt out people by the end of the day.

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30 min sessions seem like a lot......you will get alot of burnt out people by the end of the day.
That's the idea.

It would likely be Int and Adv only.

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30 mins is the way to go...if you get tired, then pull in. 20 min session always seem short to me
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I agree with Carl, 30 minute sessions means lots more riding time, but less groups means larger groups, which in turn means more traffic on the track. And 30 minutes is probably longer than many riders, (myself included), can ride safely.

By way of comparason, consider Absolute. On weekdays, (when attendance is typcially lower), Roy runs three groups with 20 minute sessions. Bit on weekends, (when attendance is a bit higher), Roy runs four groups with 15 minute sessions. I actually prefer the 15 minute sessions. I'm happy to sacrifice 5 mins/hour track time in exchange for smaller groups. If Roy went with three groups on the weekends, I'd only get an extra 5 min/hour track time, and there'd be significantly more bikes on the track. Imo, not worth it.
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