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are you asking why the best motoGp riders are from Spain

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I'm sure Pedrosa would look like that on one of them now

You're right though ..... we do all we can to discourage kids from racing anything but schoolboy MX here ....
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I'm sure Pedrosa would look like that on one of them now

You're right though ..... we do all we can to discourage kids from racing anything but schoolboy MX here ....
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It's like any sport, you get the support and the backing and you have a talent for it your sure to go a long way. I heard the kids even get time off school to race?

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It's like any sport, you get the support and the backing and you have a talent for it your sure to go a long way. I heard the kids even get time off school to race?
No no, school first, training afternoon, race week end.
But there is chance for boys and girls
(each time more) in all tracks around Spain all year...and there is a lot.
Normaly the boy go to "Rider School", the big sponsors, the teams ....the best riders have one of this.
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Look the school of Lorenzo
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That's part of the reason. But I don't think it's the whole story as to why there are so many Spaniards progressing so quickly to the front of the top ranks.

Teams need sponsorship. Sponsors want exposure. Exposure comes from publicity and leads to return on investment.

Motorcycle racing is a mainstream sport in Spain with huge public awareness and following. So it's a worthwhile investment for sponsors. And to turn that investment into profit, you have to play to the audience, and that means hiring the riders that garner the greatest public following in the countries with the largest following. And that means Spanish riders.

So it's a catch-22 situation. Teams are less likely to hire riders from nations that can't provide the sponsors the domestic exposure they want to justify their investments. But without appealing to the masses, the exposure and following can't grow, and the kids can't be encouraged to take up the sport at the very young age the Spaniards do.

It's notable (there are always exceptions though) that the really fast American and British riders coming into GP do so after a Superbike career, and by that time, age is already working against them. And they're simply not marketable enough when compared to a Marquez. And it's all about the return on investment to the sponsors.

It will be interesting to see how easy it is for the likes of Crutchlow, Reading and Smith to get rides after the BBC loses its coverage rights next year and sponsorship exposure to the UK market dwindles as viewing access is restricted through niche subscription channels.

It's hard to see how enough momentum can be built in any domestic market to warrant the investment required to nurture very young riders to compete with the likes of Spain.

Catch-22.

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That's part of the reason. But I don't think it's the whole story as to why there are so many Spaniards progressing so quickly to the front of the top ranks.

Teams need sponsorship. Sponsors want exposure. Exposure comes from publicity and leads to return on investment.

Motorcycle racing is a mainstream sport in Spain with huge public awareness and following. So it's a worthwhile investment for sponsors. And to turn that investment into profit, you have to play to the audience, and that means hiring the riders that garner the greatest public following in the countries with the largest following. And that means Spanish riders.

So it's a catch-22 situation. Teams are less likely to hire riders from nations that can't provide the sponsors the domestic exposure they want to justify their investments. But without appealing to the masses, the exposure and following can't grow, and the kids can't be encouraged to take up the sport at the very young age the Spaniards do.

It's notable (there are always exceptions though) that the really fast American and British riders coming into GP do so after a Superbike career, and by that time, age is already working against them. And they're simply not marketable enough when compared to a Marquez. And it's all about the return on investment to the sponsors.

It will be interesting to see how easy it is for the likes of Crutchlow, Reading and Smith to get rides after the BBC loses its coverage rights next year and sponsorship exposure to the UK market dwindles as viewing access is restricted through niche subscription channels.

It's hard to see how enough momentum can be built in any domestic market to warrant the investment required to nurture very young riders to compete with the likes of Spain.

Catch-22.

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I'm completely agree, at this point, if you are a foreign pilot (not Spanish), one of your best options is to participate in the CEV ( Spanish championship ) and if you win, you have your passport assured to MotoGP or SBK
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Actually, currently on the MotoGP grid there is 12 riders that has bee in CEV; Jorge Lorenzo, Dani Pedrosa, Marc Márquez, Andrea Dovizioso, Stefan Bradl, Héctor Barberá, Álvaro Bautista, Aleix Espargaró, Yonny Hernández, Andrea Iannone, Bradley Smith y Michele Pirro.

In addition, the Moto2 ... 50% of the Moto2 and Moto3 grills that passed through the CEV.
In 2013 CEV this championship is the amount of drivers' nationalities who meet in each test, a total of 24 countries represented during the weekend in Motorland:
Andorra, Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, France, Germany, England, India, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Netherlands, Qatar, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, United States, Venezuela and Spain...
Among them is the presence of Spanish pilots a total of 50 entries with France with 9 riders, England with 7 pilots, Argentina with 6 pilots and Australia with five pilots.
IF YOU WANT TO BE PRO RIDER...COME TO SPAIN.
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That's part of the reason. But I don't think it's the whole story as to why there are so many Spaniards progressing so quickly to the front of the top ranks.

Teams need sponsorship. Sponsors want exposure. Exposure comes from publicity and leads to return on investment.

Motorcycle racing is a mainstream sport in Spain with huge public awareness and following. So it's a worthwhile investment for sponsors. And to turn that investment into profit, you have to play to the audience, and that means hiring the riders that garner the greatest public following in the countries with the largest following. And that means Spanish riders.

So it's a catch-22 situation. Teams are less likely to hire riders from nations that can't provide the sponsors the domestic exposure they want to justify their investments. But without appealing to the masses, the exposure and following can't grow, and the kids can't be encouraged to take up the sport at the very young age the Spaniards do.

It's notable (there are always exceptions though) that the really fast American and British riders coming into GP do so after a Superbike career, and by that time, age is already working against them. And they're simply not marketable enough when compared to a Marquez. And it's all about the return on investment to the sponsors.

It will be interesting to see how easy it is for the likes of Crutchlow, Reading and Smith to get rides after the BBC loses its coverage rights next year and sponsorship exposure to the UK market dwindles as viewing access is restricted through niche subscription channels.

It's hard to see how enough momentum can be built in any domestic market to warrant the investment required to nurture very young riders to compete with the likes of Spain.

Catch-22.

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I am aware that another company is looking at broadcasting the Spanish CEV in GB next year, which will make the series attractive to Engish based sponsors. Some are already in the CEV, but the lack of Moto 2 races for example in U.K. does not help.
A number of Brit riders are very interested in coming over for the CEV as this is the best way for them to get the eye of larger teams with international ambitions.
Motor sport in general in Spain is biased towards the elite end of the sport, which leaves the great majority of riders who would love the chance to race, with nothing. Clubman racing is almost non existant.
Dorna also owns the CEV as well as WSB and Moto GB.
A good thing?
Since they took control costs to the teams have risen rapidly. The CEV is a great series and a perfect showcase for talent. Times in comparative classes to Moto GP are often comparable. In the last CEV in Montmeló many Moto 2 and 3 riders would have qualified on the grid for Moto GP.

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