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MV Agusta Moto 2 project

Read today on speedweek.com a speculation that with Castiglioni being pushed out, the Moto2 project could likely be buried as the connection was Cuzari - Castiglioni and Forward Racing is short on cash.

Could be the next opportunity for the new CEO to do what is right for business in my opinion.

I had hoped this Moto2 project was serious, but over the season one could see that this venture is much Forward Racing and little MV Agusta. The Triumph engine and the “stolen” fairings do the rest.

If any MV Agusta money is involved it is better invested elsewhere. If no money is involved it still needs to be stopped as Forward Racing is a burden on the brand.

Please pull the plug, Timur!
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What should they do in your opinion?

Pull one of the most famous brands out of racing and have them only compete in WorldSupersport? A dying class on its own with the yamaha beehive.

Drop Forward and go full MV with triumph engine?
When they produce and sell low CC engines in Asia, enter moto3 class as a own brand?

MotoGP is a no go for sure.

MV currently with Triumph engine has a bad taste to it. Riding with a competitors engine.
But I dont see them enter a different class until they actually have the new F4. Which they can enter WSBK with.(If they have the budget)
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MV currently with Triumph engine has a bad taste to it. Riding with a competitors engine.
Agree.
I can't imagine a Triumph running around with an MV engine or a Honda with a Yamaha engine. Just an outright conflict of interest.

I think MV should concentrate on its range and then think about racing. That's not its true heritage, I know, but times are so different now.

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I agree with Nigel. First, get the products right. The race appreciating buyers are fewer than let’s say in the early 2000s. Racing nowadays is for those companies that can afford it.

MV Agusta has since its return never really played a role in major racing series. It had been resurrected without any racing and was still having success.

WSBK as a whole is a big fake in my opinion. It is not about the bike, just about what kind of prototype tech you stuff into the basis. The stock Kwaker is solid, but not more. But the WSBK bike destroys the competition, partly because if Rea, but it was already dominant before. So a future F4 in WSBK would not do it for me. This seems to be hypothetical anyway as the next F4 is said to be non-compliant with WSBK homologation rules. That leaves it to the F3 in SSP, a series that is indeed dying. And I doubt that there will be 675 in 2021 when Euro5 hits the scene.

MotoGP is out of reach, Moto2 is crap because of the Triumph engine. Moto3 could be an option. But if you want to be super prestigious, Moto3 might also not really fit.

I liked the idea of Road Racing, maybe like Norton does. Even though they are not winning, it seems to be appreciated quite a bit that they participate. Why not sending some factory backed red/silver F3s into the IOM TT SSP races and make a solid marketing campaign out of it. Bikes that survive the mountain course get credit.
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flex, that sounds like the best idea and use of resources for sure..
"I liked the idea of Road Racing, maybe like Norton does. Even though they are not winning, it seems to be appreciated quite a bit that they participate. Why not sending some factory backed red/silver F3s into the IOM TT SSP races and make a solid marketing campaign out of it. Bikes that survive the mountain course get credit."

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Their results have been better as of late. Id like to see them continue, but with better riders.


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Their results have been better as of late. Id like to see them continue, but with better riders.
From top 20 race starts getting into points with people dropping out infront of them. Since summerbreak top15-10 on their own.

Not sure how much MV themself really are into it, but slow but steady improvements.

Just miss the singular f3 headlight like airintake. Looked so good.
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until MV can establish itself on it's own bike in a racing series it is a waste. They should not be in Moto2. At least in WSS they are using their own bike
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They did get some air time on MotoGP coverage Saturday.... long interview with team manager (can't recall her name).

Manzi was into Q2 at that time. Seems they have a new swing arm that has improved traction exiting turns.....

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They did get some air time on MotoGP coverage Saturday.... long interview with team manager (can't recall her name).

Manzi was into Q2 at that time. Seems they have a new swing arm that has improved traction exiting turns.....
That explains why they improved on the grid.
I enjoy watching the MV team improving over the year, eventhough it really isnt an MV.

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