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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-28-2016, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
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Developement Question

I know in MotoGP once season starts there cannot be any engine development (ridiculous and expensive IMHO)

BUT...in WSBK what is the rules for engine development ? I know they can develop exhausts but can they do actual internal engine development ? Thank You Jake
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-28-2016, 10:20 PM
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Yes they can. In MotoGP they submit and have all their engines sealed before the start of the season. In WSBK and WSSP they submit engines for sealing when they need too thruout the season. Although they can make minimal changes due to the strict rules you will often hear the riders talk of engine "upgrades" during the season. In fact two races ago MV changed engine supplier for the WSSP bikes and it has less total power but better power thru the range do too some internal modifications. Could only do that in MotoGP thru electronics.

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Thanks Vapor , the MotoGP rules are ridiculous. raises cost due to having to improve and make sure new tech is durable all in short period of time. Which slows progress considerably and hinders small companies the most.
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Speaking about development , the excessive rain this year had to slow Michelins progress this , its First year in MotoGP.
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Keep on mind that they have concessions for "new" manufacturers. So Suzuki and Aprilia have more engines and are allowed unlimited development of the engines during the season. Suzuki lost their concessions next year because they have past the allowed concession points due to the amount of podiums they have this year. I believe KTM and Aprilia will both have the concessions next year.

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Vapor ,The concessions worked well good idea . According to race financial managers ( race engine technology) the 2 best ways to keep costs in line is 1 Bone stock class 2 VERY little restrictions .
Excessive rising costs in racing come when sanctioning bodies take away tech and teams have to engineer a way around new rules to stay status quo to what they lost . Also when sanctioning bodies change rules every year. Again, creating need for much more engineering. FUEL RESTRICTIONS cost big $$ in engineering . What is the point of restricting fuel? They are racing and the minimal amount of fuel saved wont cure the world .
ANYHOW.... is there a rule in WSBK reguarding gear ratios? I thought I read they have a choice of 2 final gear ratios for every track. What is the point in that? why not let them change as many front/ rear sprockets as they like?
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Vapor ,The concessions worked well good idea . According to race financial managers ( race engine technology) the 2 best ways to keep costs in line is 1 Bone stock class 2 VERY little restrictions .
Excessive rising costs in racing come when sanctioning bodies take away tech and teams have to engineer a way around new rules to stay status quo to what they lost . Also when sanctioning bodies change rules every year. Again, creating need for much more engineering. FUEL RESTRICTIONS cost big $$ in engineering . What is the point of restricting fuel? They are racing and the minimal amount of fuel saved wont cure the world .
ANYHOW.... is there a rule in WSBK reguarding gear ratios? I thought I read they have a choice of 2 final gear ratios for every track. What is the point in that? why not let them change as many front/ rear sprockets as they like?
Pretty sure they can swap sprockets to their hearts content. The internal gearbox ratios cannot be changed from what they choose at the beginning of the year.

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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-30-2016, 09:59 AM Thread Starter
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I would think the same but rule was listed in Road racing World magazine ( the Only USA bike mag that isn't a glorified advertising pamphlet)

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I did not. But they just said on the TV that they are in fact allowed to change sprockets. Not the internal ratios.

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I saw that also . I thought regulating final drive ratios was ridiculous . Not everything printed is true especially USA magazines .
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