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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 08-05-2014, 01:00 AM Thread Starter
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Brough Superior Moto2 Monoque Carbon Fiber chassis to debute at British MotoGP

The Much awaited Brough Superior Moto2 race bike is debute at this years British MotoGP at the end of August .( source motomatters.com)
The Brough Superior is a true Monoque carbon fiber design . As we all know Brough Superior is a root for the very small UK motorcycle company so the chances of it being competitive is slim . BUT I always root for the under dog especially being they are Brits with a set of balls to try out a totally new chassis design .
Can you imagine If Brough Superior figures out the monoque carbon chassis puzzle where Ducati had failed?
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Jake You forgot the Cagiva GP500 and their struggle with the carbon chassis until they switched to aluminum.
Basically they baked for every race a new chassis just to find out that it was again not right for the track.
So I fear the flexibility of a carbon chassis, in view of geometric changes, is way to slim for top class racing.
But hey I like underdogs as well.
I liked the Bimota Moto2 project as I liked the initial MZ Moto2 project.
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HI HAUPTI, Carbon fiber gets its strength from how the fibers are layered, kind of like a suspension bridge ( very simplistic terms its Much more complicated in reality ) The BIG advantage of carbon fiber monoque chassis is the ability to fine tune the chassis flexability and stiffness to each individual track and rider prefferance . Can you imagine the advantage that would have in MotoGP!! Ducati could have DOMINATED MotoGP having both the strongest engine AND a chassis that could be fine tuned to power/ track/ flex/ stiffness ect. BUT if you look at an F1 car going through a set of ..S.. turns and a Motorcycle going through same set of ...S.. turns a motorcycle has forces pushing chassis from MANY/Every angles . The Auto has forces coming from only front, rear left side, right side. Again simplistic explination but you know what I mean .
Ducati made 3 ? versions of Monoque carbon fiber chassis designs.F1 auto racing needed like 300 versions to get it correct and they had a much simpler
hurtles to overcome.

But Haupti you got one over on me as I cant even recall the Cagiva Monoque carbon chassis . I though after Eddie Lawson signed/rode for Cagiva for a year, the Company essentially folded being absorbed into Ducati. An investment fund company bought both entities/blue sky values. ( there only value at that point in time)

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HI HAUPTI, Carbon fiber gets its strength from how the fibers are layered, kind of like a suspension bridge ( very simplistic terms its Much more complicated in reality ) The BIG advantage of carbon fiber monoque chassis is the ability to fine tune the chassis flexability and stiffness to each individual track and rider prefferance . Can you imagine the advantage that would have in MotoGP!! Ducati could have DOMINATED MotoGP having both the strongest engine AND a chassis that could be fine tuned to power/ track/ flex/ stiffness ect. BUT if you look at an F1 car going through a set of ..S.. turns and a Motorcycle going through same set of ...S.. turns a motorcycle has forces pushing chassis from MANY/Every angles . The Auto has forces coming from only front, rear left side, right side. Again simplistic explination but you know what I mean .
Ducati made 3 ? versions of Monoque carbon fiber chassis designs.F1 auto racing needed like 300 versions to get it correct and they had a much simpler
hurtles to overcome.

But Haupti you got one over on me as I cant even recall the Cagiva Monoque carbon chassis . I though after Eddie Lawson signed/rode for Cagiva for a year, the Company essentially folded being absorbed into Ducati. An investment fund company bought both entities/blue sky values. ( there only value at that point in time)
Jake the other way around.
Cagiva took Ducati over as the later was on the verge of bancruptcy.
This after Cagiva bought engines of the limping Bologna brand for Years and helped them to survive.
Now than sold Castiglioni Ducati to bespoken Investment group.
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What motogp really needs for diverse development is to bring back the 'sin' sponsors.
Can you imagine Ducati if they had Marbroll money!?!?
They would have a shit-load more development for their original chassis and maybe Casey would have thought different.
Maybe Nickey would have had the chassis he wanted (but who really knows if that would have changed anything. Either way, Nicks was a great promotional peice that would have brought in Sin money trying to get the American market, all to the riders benefit.
Imagine if Rossi had just a little of that Sin money?!?
100 carbon chassis, a figure new aluminum frame! And so on.
Hell, even Suzuki could possibly be competitive again!
Aaaand companies trying to get in on the promo train would sponsor underling companies trying to get into the game, so upstarts, like Britton who got his frame squared away in about 4 to 6 tries (Cmon Ducati) would have a means to change/develop the sport.
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Heat stroke got me :-)

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