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Wheel Balancing what device ?

Gentlemen, what device / tool You use for balancing Your rear wheel?
Or what do You give Your next door tyre tech to balance the rear wheel?
My next Ducati or MV Agusta shop is hours away.
I had today my F4 for a rear tyre change at the local sports bike shop.
I took an old rear axle with me but the guys at the Hoyakazuki dealership couldn't get the wheel on their machine.
And this without or with the axle.
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I was given a damaged axle by forum member Matt, I then had a piece turned on a lathe to fill the inside so it's the same diameter as the front wheel bearings.
I then use a Abba wheel balancing tool, but there's many options available.




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Here's a set of cones from No-Mar that fit all known single side swing arm wheels. Use with basic gravity balance stand......just like the tire techs at the WSBK and MotoGP races.

http://www.nomartirechanger.com/prod...largecones.htm

You could also have someone machine you a nice cone from aluminum.....

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Argh, forgot that you can also get the adaptors for the Abba balancing tool which go in perfectly.





Like Ed said, there's a few options out there and it's easy to do it yourself Raplh


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Wink tires and balancing.....

Ralf;
Go to Cycle Gear
864-322-6626
2017 Wade Hampton Blvd
Greenville NC
29615
55 miles away

Call and.make.sure they have the MV adaptors (Ducati big axle)

They use modern DYNAMIC.balancers ........with 6" rims there can be a side to side difference....... won't find it statically ........ never on ball bearings


I was given a ball bearing balancer.......I go to Cycle Gear and the store manager changes and balances my tires for free

They have good prices on tires too


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Thank You Dons, Ed and Noel.
You all have again good options.
I think I go with this product.
http://www.marcparnes.com/MV_Augusta...l_Balancer.htm
It is not so that I will have to do it all the time.
But than there is the occasional event and I have the time.
Driving with my wheel for hours would might lead to a better result as Noel said.
What is good for the racing teams on world championship level should be enough for me.
So I will do the static balancing of the wheel next time home.
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Provided I get the freaking wheel nut loose next time.
This time I was at a Truck workshop and they managed to get it loose with an big ass impact wrench.
Luckily I have bought a steel socket years ago which has a 3/4" square.
So I tightened it this time with 220Nm and hope I can get it off next time.
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Provided I get the freaking wheel nut loose next time.
This time I was at a Truck workshop and they managed to get it loose with an big ass impact wrench.
Luckily I have bought a steel socket years ago which has a 3/4" square.
So I tightened it this time with 220Nm and hope I can get it off next time.

I had to make a steel 1" drive socket to get the nut loose first time on my SPR, after breaking 2 Snap-On 3/4 to 1/2 impact adapters !!!......Never a problem using normal methods/tools since, and never a problem on my 910R at all. Crazy how tight that nut can get!!

Noel, none of the tire companies use dynamic balancing at the race tracks when swapping tires....even at the highest level. These guys are running as wide a rim as you can use and at speeds much higher than anyone ever will on the street.
It's great if you have access to a fancy automotive wheel balancer, but totally unnecessary.

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..........Crazy how tight that nut can get!!

Noel, none of the tire companies use dynamic balancing at the race tracks when swapping tires....even at the highest level. These guys are running as wide a rim as you can use and at speeds much higher than anyone ever will on the street.
It's great if you have access to a fancy automotive wheel balancer, but totally unnecessary.
Ed;
The wheel nut can't get any tighter.......it has a clip locking it.to the axle.....aand.the wheel is pinned to the axle

Galvanic corrosion will make.it harder to remove (break.away torque)

Some idiot over torqued your SPR

Tires.that are dynamically balanced;
Commercial airliners
Military jets
All.race cars (Indy, F1, NASCAR etc)
Most street cars
Most street bikes

I only know of 2 bike shops that don't have dynamic balancers and they are 1 man shops one mostly MX.and.at the other Eddie is 84

Valdi's Moto Zone is he and his son.......K&L Supply pneumatic tire machine and dynamic balancer

Time is money and they do a much better job and they control QC in house

I suggested that Ralf go to CycleGear its usually $20 mount and balance while.you wait....

That motorcycle race teams.don't dynamically balance tires.doesn't surprise me in the slightest.......
They are famous for being reactionary idiots......

Who do you think fuel injected Hondas.cars for.Honda.Corp?????

They had no clue......
It was Russ Collins

Who taught Honda Corp how to grind cams to make power??????

Luther Iskanderian, his brother Ed, is known as the Camfather

Russ' and Ed's shops were across the street from American Honda

Ed go look at your radiator mounts........

Radiator hangs from the side straps weakest part of the radiator think it will fail???

Its made by the Japs .....Toyo Radiator

Do they care? No.......they just sell more radiators


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What's all that got to do with tire balance??

The auto type balances do the job more quickly than static method. That means the shop can get the job in and out faster. Time is money for them.

Also, auto wheels are incredibly wider, not to mention impossible to mount on a static gravity balance stand. I do have an antique static bubble balancer for auto wheels in my basement...circa 1960's or earlier.

It's not the GP/WSBK/etc race teams using static balance...it is the Dunlop, Pirelli, Michelin and Bridgestone technicians. The tire manufacturers drag the power tire changers around to all the races in the tire support semis but they don't drag any dynamic spin balancers.....

Go figure??? Like I said, automotive dynamic tire balancers are nice to have if you have one (important from a time saving perspective at a dealership where the service department is selling time) but totally unnecessary.

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