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Bubbalcious 2 : Talladega GP Track Review

This message is for those of you who are attending the track day associated with Bub II.
Yesterday I attended an STT trackday at this "motorcycle only" venue.
Here are my observations :

- Talladega GP is a 1.4 mile, rather narrow track
- The track can be run clock wise or counter clock wise
- aside from the big "U" turn at the center of the track, all turns are in the same direction, thus putting a lot of wear on one side of your tires
- the surface of this track is rather coarse and offers good grip. As a result, it will also eat tires.
- there are no elevation changes
- top speeds are 130 mph max
- I consider it to be a rather technical track. There's hardly any straights and you're constantly leaned over.
- especially the "U" turn was a bitch when I was first learning the track. To make things worse, it has a wide strip of asphalt repair on it's exit, which initially caused me to 'target forcus'. Rather annoying under learning conditions.
- funny anecdote : we had a red flag condition in order to remove a copperhead from the track. You meet the nicest creatures at track days, haha !

Implications for the particpants to our event:

- first of all : STT organized the event with 3 classes of 30 people per group. At no time did I ever feel like my group was too crowded.
- in view of it's technical nature, the track will wear you out. Since we only have 20 people enlisted for an all day event, they will get very tired. I honestly think we could open it up to more people.
- if our participants spend 50% of the time on the track, they might need an extra set of tires handy since one side of their tires might wear out by noon
- alternatively, we could consider to ride the track in the opposite direction in the afternoon.
- as mentioned, the big U turn is a bitch, even on my Ducati. Would have been problematic on my MV with it's flat spot in the 4 to 5K range. We'll have to be careful for highsides coming out of this one.
- bring a snake tourniquet and some anti-serum

Overall, very good venue.

Racer Ed Bargy says that if you can master Talladega GP, you can ride any track in the SE.

Hope this helps !
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I think this was covered somewhere and was told we could NOT run it backwards. But I dont know this for sure. The track is very fun and narrow.. I think if you can ride the Track in Alaska you can ride any track. Google Tanacross and you will see hahaha it has cracks, gravel, frost heaves, and grass!
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thanks for the update. I hope whoever lends me a bike reads it to prep the tires accordingly.


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I think if you can ride the Track in Alaska you can ride any track. Google Tanacross and you will see hahaha it has cracks, gravel, frost heaves, and grass!
But no Copperheads

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Touche! But Bears and Moose should account for something?
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Yankee and Continental Buds have no idea what a 'copperhead' is......

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Is it a snake that eats the right hand side of the tyre?
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If I remember correctly, we have chosen the 20 riders on the track at one time format because it was less expensive. I don't think that means only 20 participants. For example, I know I won't be riding every session, and I'm happy to loan my track bike out for a few sessions so those arriving from points far away can ride an MV on the track.

When Elton gets back from the World super bike races and his track day and mountain ride in Utah, maybe he can clarify.
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Yves, only you can correct the spelling...........it's Bubbalicious.

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I'm still in Utah, at the track, working on my phone, so I'll be brief:

The 20 person limit was chosen because it was cost effective. The next level, (60 people, with 20 max on the track, at any given time, I think, or something close to that, I don't remember exactly, I'd have to check), is considerably more money in track fees, requires two, (instead of one), ambulances, more insurance, and more corner workers. Frankly, it seemed like more than we needed, but I could reach out to them and see if they could offer some sort of custom package for us, (30 people?). TGPR is a family run business, and I wouldn't be surprised if they'd work with us.

A word of caution though: As numbers increase, costs escalate rapidly. 20 people is the maximum allowed with one ambulance crew. An additional ambulance is expensive, and also requires additional insurance, which is also expensive. And if we go to the next level, we'll be required to hire corner workers, which is also expensive. (Right now, we're providing our own corner workers.) Things add up quickly.

The package we have allows for 20 participants with no more than 7 on the track at any given time. The kind people at TGPR probably aren't going to police us so closely that we couldn't get away with a couple of extras, (so long as we adhere to the 7 person track limit), but I'm sure there's a limit to their kindness. If we show up with 40, or even 30, I foresee problems.

When I asked about running the track in either direction, I was told this was not allowed, but I'll ask again.

I remain open to suggestions, commentary, criticism, and ideas. If people want to move up to the next level, we can do that.

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