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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 01-02-2018, 09:25 AM Thread Starter
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Hilltop Motorcycles UK - Remap services

Hi,

Does anyone here have any experience of using Hilltop Motorcycles near Hinckly in the UK for remap services to an MV?

I have a 2013 B800 and am thinking of changing the exhaust downpipe/collector with a catfree alternative, I already have a HP CORSE Hydro Tre end can fitted so am looking to remap the Eldor ECU to suit the changes.

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I don't have experience of Hilltop, the question I would ask is what is their tuning approach. In short are they using ECUStudio, Rexxer etc or a standard MV remap. Depending on the response it will give you some insight to their ability to interact with the Eldor Nemo ECU. Also how many Eldor based bikes have they done?

Last time I went round this loop in late 2015 there were really very few tuning options that really had control of the ecu. At the time I invested in ECUStuio and then spent time on teh dyno to understand it. That said apart from de-cat and general clean up, I wanted to change the mapping of the throttle as it just did not work for me, ECUStudio was the only one that let me create the throttle mapping that worked for me and also enabled the AutoBlipper control.

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This is exactly why we should have a “MV Dealer/Company” section.

Then, after a while, we could just search the company and read up on what’s been said about them.

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Hi Arron and Nicolas,

I have emailed Hilltop asking the above questions, just was hoping some other UK forum member may have been down this route before,or had gone a different route. I have read about the ECU studio package but am not an expert in writing maps or reading dyno runs to create a one off by myself.

Hilltop Motorcycles do not fit an aftermarket unit like a pc 5 or Rexxer, they state they write software and insert it into the ECU on spare space. As I am planning on making fairly minor mods to my bike I don't expect this to be a huge hurdle.

The 2013 Eldor ECU links well with my factory supplied EAS (up change only) and the "sport" setting throttle curve suits me and the bike well, my only wish is to ensure there are no lean spots created by eliminating the cat and improve the response even further.

When I hear back from Hilltop I will update this thread.

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Hi Arron and Nicolas,

I have emailed Hilltop asking the above questions, just was hoping some other UK forum member may have been down this route before,or had gone a different route. I have read about the ECU studio package but am not an expert in writing maps or reading dyno runs to create a one off by myself.

Hilltop Motorcycles do not fit an aftermarket unit like a pc 5 or Rexxer, they state they write software and insert it into the ECU on spare space. As I am planning on making fairly minor mods to my bike I don't expect this to be a huge hurdle.

The 2013 Eldor ECU links well with my factory supplied EAS (up change only) and the "sport" setting throttle curve suits me and the bike well, my only wish is to ensure there are no lean spots created by eliminating the cat and improve the response even further.

When I hear back from Hilltop I will update this thread.
Why not buy the SC Project S1 or CRT and additionally buy there AFM fuel management module. I have this set up on my 2016 Euro 4 Brutale 800 and they do it for the older models too. They set the AFD unit for your bike at the factory and once mine was fitted the improvement was astonishing. Dead on 30 in town it was a struggle in third and a bit of a nuisance in second, now it will pull 4th at 30 and just pull away, no delay, no jerkiness. The extra power is quite noticeable and the fuelling is perfect.
The only downside, if you call it that is that it is LOUD, with the best soundtrack that I have ever heard on a bike, the banging and popping on the over run is like bombs going off. I did start to think that it was too anti social and regrettably bought a db killer; packed silencer wadding around it and fitted it well down the pipe. I lost 6 Db at 5000 revs but it is still loud but does not frighten anything close by when you start it. The good news is that the sound is just that bit less embarrassing but it still pops and bangs just the same. Also, being all Titanium it saves 6 kg; in fact when the box was delivered I honestly thought that it was empty. Beautiful workmanship and welding too.

It's a definite maybe.
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Hilltop.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I went there with my buddy and his Hayabusa. We we there 3 or 4 hours, some of the time at a local cafe and some just wandering around. The Dyno print outs that they gave him were impressive, cost him over £400, possibly nearer £600. When he got back to Scotland, near Inverness, where he lives, he rang me and said that the power and torque figures were perhaps not like those on paper.

It's a definite maybe.
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Hi Hubbinator,

As I have already purchased the HP Corse Hydro Tre and like it a lot I certainly will not be fitting the SC system, sorry but it does not even look good in comparison. I have now ordered the Silmoto down pipes in INOX from EuroMotards in Italy, expecting delivery in early February.

I also have had a reply from Hilltop and they have said they have done a number of MV Agusta remaps as in their opinion the factory software in not that good. They have indicated they can improve on the originals a good bit so I am going to go ahead when I have the catless downpipes fitted and can get the bike up to them.

I will of course get pics and dyno charts as things progress and post my thoughts as things develop. I am not looking for big number increases and that type of BS, it will be more about throttle response, crispness and drivability that I will be most interested in.

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Hi Jimbo
Well I guess that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I just saw the S1 and fell in love with the uncluttered look and the beauty of the welding, plus I don't need three pipes to show that it is a triple, you only have to hear it. As the French say "chacon a son gout."

It's a definite maybe.
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"Chacon a son gout" indeed, blonde, brunette, big, small even ginger

Being a bit of an old school type, I remember back to looking at the F4 when it was first revealed, the four organ pipe rear end was a focus for a lot of us viewing that bike and like many I had to have one.

The same with the three cyl range, I am glad Adrian Morton followed Tamburini's lead and went for a three exit solution. and in my view HP Corse improved it.

I am sure the SC is a great exhaust and far more efficient than the triple solution, but it is the look I wanted on my baby Brute.

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Following with interest !
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