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post #111 of 146 (permalink) Old 05-28-2019, 06:29 PM
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Can't wait. This has been a long project.

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post #112 of 146 (permalink) Old 05-29-2019, 06:25 PM
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Hi Nicholas, you installed hi performance headers correct? They might be a bit longer than stock and the reason the hang down a bit.Also hard to tell depth in a picture. Good luck keep us posted . I upgraded my f4rr to F4rc spec + Bodis header . it Flys Looking forward to seeing your project when its completed.

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Bike is done. Iím picking it up this Saturday.

How much should one expect in HP and Nm from a stock F4RC?
A motor that claims 212hp and leaves 184rwhp is pretty bad.

Mine left, full stock(205hp motor) without MV race kit/ECU, 175rwhp in the first run back in 2017.
It had 1.280km on the ODO back then. 998cc.....

It now has 1161cc motor BUT STILL CANíT MAKE OVER 200RWHP!!!!???

Clearly there has to be something wrong or am I mistaking??

Isnít a flashed R1M with full Acra system leaving ~197rwhp?? Or even sometimes more than 200??(depending on dyno bench)

This operation cost more than the entire motorcycle and Iím a bit disappointed.

Sure, itís the most insane ever MV Agusta right now but there was a old 1133cc big bore Brutale that could show 211rwhp.

It has PowerCommander5. Maybe it should be changed??

I donít know what more I can do. =\

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post #114 of 146 (permalink) Old 07-10-2019, 07:33 PM Thread Starter
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The DC water pump fitted mine perfectly, really nice job. All of the gen 2 F4's have the same water pump, from the Std to the RC. When you say it did not fit, what is the problem? Have they sent you the correct F4 water pump?
Iím going to try and fit the pump back in Sweden.
If nobody understand how to - Iíll drive all the way to England.

I really hope itís the correct one.

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It has PowerCommander5. Maybe it should be changed??

I don’t know what more I can do. =\
YES.....a PowerCommander can only change injector duration (fuel). You need ignition timing changes. What you need is a Microtec ECU, not a dumb piggy-back system like the PCV.

I would think this would have been one of the first changes you would make...

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for the RC in question, it has the newer ECU system with DBW, there isn't a microtec for the 2013+ bikes that I am aware of. You'll need at minimum the ECU studio software to properly tune this, but for something of this level I'd be looking to a specialty tuner that is willing to add a motec M150 or similar WSBK electronics. Half measure lead to half results.
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Thank you for your replies.

The final result as of today is: 201rwhp.

Itís good, but there may be room for more.

I will definitely look at WSBK electronics.
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It'll only be as good as the tuner, but a good value is the Moto America Motec ECU kit. It is derivative of the BSB control ecu but has a few more features unlocked. It would be a matter of getting someone to make you a harness and see about tuning it. The ECU studio software seems to be well received, but I don't have any personal experience with it.

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It'll only be as good as the tuner, but a good value is the Moto America Motec ECU kit. It is derivative of the BSB control ecu but has a few more features unlocked. It would be a matter of getting someone to make you a harness and see about tuning it. The ECU studio software seems to be well received, but I don't have any personal experience with it.
In terms of control ECU Studio will provide control over all the fuel ignition etc so can be mapped completely. Bare in mind the Eldor ECU is load based, so I'd expect better performance from the Flashed Eldor than from a PC5 piggyback.

The advantage / disadvantage of the Motec is getting it set up correctly, engine braking and TC needs to be created from scratch as there wont be F4 templates :-) Results will be good, just expect a longer development time compared to flashing the existing ECU.

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Who built the WSBK F4RC??

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