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post #21 of 40 (permalink) Old 07-10-2016, 03:19 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks again for the responses everyone.

Looks like those tubes were to spread the airflow across all four intakes and/or deaden noise...
http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/showth...t=50500&page=1

I guess the last couple questions I have are:

1. Do I really need to buy a stock airbox or can I continue to use this one assuming I get a dyno run and/or get a Microtec? I see one used on ebay for $89.95.

2. Either way - sounds like I have these options:

a) Get the bike remapped at Rob's Dyno - could be a long wait..Hopefully will find out tomorrow. Also could drop Chucks 1090RR map on there with a reflash, but I'd almost rather just do a complete dyno run if I'm going to be working with Rob.
b) Buy a Microtec (also gets me quickshifter). This would also allow me to reinstall the original cans if I swap-in a different midpipe. Im not completely sure I'm happy with how loud the Arrow system is - even with the dbkiller installed. Nice to be able to remap on my own using Chris' maps. I do understand that they will not be as dead accurate as a dyno run, but I'm ok if it gets me 90% there.
c) Do both - if the assortment of maps Chris would send me aren't adequate (assuming Rob can map using the Microtec software). This would be pretty expensive, but only necessary if I wasn't happy with the maps supplied by Chris and needed them dialed in.
d) Sell the bike and find something stock. I'd lose money and really don't want to sell the bike.


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I finally said "f**k it" and scheduled an appt with Rob's Dyno. It's not until September 12th, but I'm hoping this will finally put this whole thing to rest. I'm also buying a stock airbox off ebay so by the time I bring it to him, it will be a little more "sane" without anyone's "performance tweaks".

I really would still dig a quickshifter, but at this point, I just want the bike running correctly and will deal with that later.
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Where are you located? I may send my 1090RR ecu up to Rob as well. I'd like to just go see him and get it and the Senna done at the same time... but the FL to MA trip is a long one that I have not planned yet. My 2012 has a PCV on it, and it seems ok, besides lots of popping on hard decel, which leads me to believe it may still be lean.

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Or rich on the overrun....unburned fuel igniting in the pipes...after fire!

Could be either....

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Or rich on the overrun....unburned fuel igniting in the pipes...after fire!

Could be either....
Agreed. Although the lack of black on the silencers that have always been in the exhaust until I bought it don't show a "rich" environment. They are pretty clean, as well as the clean end caps... although I'm sure George kept those clean.

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Yeah..lean misfire can cause incomplete combustion and after fire on decel as well. It can even dry foul spark plugs.

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I purchased my Microtec M226 from X-Bikes shy of 2 years ago. I was super nervous about the purchase (especially form someone on the other side of the planet). Chris and Louise have been really good to work with, super knowledgeable. It is a great way to go. It totally fixed the low RPM twitchy throttle response issue.

After getting my M226, I took my bike to two different guys for tuning, locally to me. Both own dynos, both race bikes, both had worked with other Microtec Models before. Neither one could properly tune my bike. It was a nightmare.

I'm currently using a borrowed Microtec M163 for auto-tuning. Ironically, I just found the maps Chris sent with the controller (yeah, I feel like a real knob for not noticing earlier!). Amazingly, my current auto-tune map, 3D image, looks similar to his. Which is a super good thing.

I'VE HAD SOOOOOO MUCH FUN MAKING MY OWN MAPS in the last two weeks. I even purchased my own M163 (used) due to arrive in the next week.

I use my stock air box, BMC high flow air filter, and full MV Corse TI exhaust. (2008 Brutale 910R)

There is a weird thermal issue on this controller, which I think I've mostly fixed.

Only thing I wish....I wish I knew what the stock ECU map looked like. What AFRs in which TPS/RPM cells. As much fun as I'm having making my own, I would love to just have the stock one back. It would also be cool to know things like the values for the ignition/advance per the correlation by Velocity/Acceleration. (my next adventure is messing with those)

But as familiar as I am now with the software and mapping, to completely customize a map....on my own.....SUPER EXCITED!!!! (all credit goes to X-Bikes for the support and encouragement!)

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I use my stock air box, BMC high flow air filter, and full MV Corse TI exhaust. (2008 Brutale 910R)

There is a weird thermal issue on this controller, which I think I've mostly fixed.
the M226? How you notice?

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I purchased my Microtec M226 from X-Bikes shy of 2 years ago. I was super nervous about the purchase (especially form someone on the other side of the planet). Chris and Louise have been really good to work with, super knowledgeable. It is a great way to go. It totally fixed the low RPM twitchy throttle response issue.

After getting my M226, I took my bike to two different guys for tuning, locally to me. Both own dynos, both race bikes, both had worked with other Microtec Models before. Neither one could properly tune my bike. It was a nightmare.

I'm currently using a borrowed Microtec M163 for auto-tuning. Ironically, I just found the maps Chris sent with the controller (yeah, I feel like a real knob for not noticing earlier!). Amazingly, my current auto-tune map, 3D image, looks similar to his. Which is a super good thing.

I'VE HAD SOOOOOO MUCH FUN MAKING MY OWN MAPS in the last two weeks. I even purchased my own M163 (used) due to arrive in the next week.

I use my stock air box, BMC high flow air filter, and full MV Corse TI exhaust. (2008 Brutale 910R)

There is a weird thermal issue on this controller, which I think I've mostly fixed.

Only thing I wish....I wish I knew what the stock ECU map looked like. What AFRs in which TPS/RPM cells. As much fun as I'm having making my own, I would love to just have the stock one back. It would also be cool to know things like the values for the ignition/advance per the correlation by Velocity/Acceleration. (my next adventure is messing with those)

But as familiar as I am now with the software and mapping, to completely customize a map....on my own.....SUPER EXCITED!!!! (all credit goes to X-Bikes for the support and encouragement!)


Glad you mentioned this because I ordered an M226 too. That said, I still have a dyno run (Rob's Dyno) scheduled for mid - Sept, which I may or may not keep depending on how well I get the bike running. I also just installed a stock airbox and stock filter in an effort to revert back to a known configuration. Took the bike for a ride earlier and it felt smoother. Either way, after having a Tuneboy on my Diavel, I like having an ECU I can remap myself and not have to take it to a tuner every time and shell out hundreds of dollars.

I spoke to Chris @ X-Bikes about a week ago on the phone for 45 minutes before I decided to pull the trigger. Can't say enough about how helpful and enjoyable my discussion with him was.

Between you and him, now I know who to bug when I'm tuning this thing.

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