MV Brutale poor low rpm throttle response - survey - MVAgusta.net
View Poll Results: Low RPM throttle problem on MV Brutale?
Did not have this problem with my Brutale 20 32.26%
Got problem fixed under warranty 0 0%
could not get it fixed under warranty spent my own cash with a specialist 8 12.90%
Still have the issue just putting up with it 28 45.16%
other 6 9.68%
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post #1 of 69 (permalink) Old 10-05-2013, 08:30 PM Thread Starter
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MV Brutale poor low rpm throttle response - survey

Hi,

There are quite alot of posts with people having problems with low rpm throttle not working. There are various suggestions to fix it some of which are quite expensive such as remapping/replacing ECU.

My bike is a Brutale 2013 1090 R from Sydney Australia.

Has MV ever addressed the issue if mechanics were unable to fix it?
Has there ever been an MV rep on this forum that has made a comment about the issue.?

I would be interested to hear what others have experienced with this issue or not. I still have the problem see here , so please post a short outcome of what you did to resolve it.

1) i did not have an issue
2) I did have but the mechanic fixed it (under warranty)
3) The Mechanics (warranty) could not fix it, so you got it sorted by spending your own money with a specialist. Problem is resolved.
4) still have an issue dont know what to do, mechanics say just put up with it.

I have emailed MV and the importers but they have not contacted me in over two months.
The shop that i bought from just say its a characteristic of the bike.
Taken it to other shops but they say take it back to the dealer.
My concern is i am looking at spending $$ for an issue that should be fixed under warranty! Also is thisto be expected for italian bikes that you need to spend money to sort these issues out? This was the main reason buying a brutale, a good urban heavy traffic bike where you need low rpm control.

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post #2 of 69 (permalink) Old 10-05-2013, 08:33 PM
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I contacted MV USA thru facebook and usually got a response within 24 hrs if not sooner. Try them and see what they say.

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Exup, take some time and read through the Brutale and maint. section mate, this has been discussed for most bikes, many times.
It would be good if you told us what model Brutale you have, where you are located, etc.

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Donsy checked out the second paragraph ;-)

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This was the main reason buying a brutale, a good urban heavy traffic bike where you need low rpm control.

Cheers.

Really?

I'd think DRZ400SM.
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Haha did he..That was sneaky.

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Am afraid this is a problem suffered by modern bikes due to emissions controls, not all though, I think there are 3 basic issues, the fuel is cut off on the overrun, in general the mixture is too weak for good low rpm running and of course because the mixture is weak the ignition timing has also to be less than optimum, the weak mixture is needed for the emissions tests. I doubt the dealer will be able to sort it unless your TPS setting is way out, but that's unlikely.

I ended spending the money on a microtec to sort my 1090 out.

The Diavel I have just bought suffers the same but thankfully the Mitsubishi ECU can be re-flashed.

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I disagree that this is a common problem for modern sport bikes. Having tested the same bike as a demo version all be it 2012 model it did not have this gap of 4000 rpm. That is no revs! You cant hold say 2 or 3k it does not exist and this is in neutral. Also the previous bikes I have had all easily rev between idle and 4k. Eg R1's speed triples and the like.

I dont own a car so I use bikes every day all weather for over 35 years so not a newbie to this, just new to MV.

It would seem then that it is common and is up to the owner to fork out paying to fix the issue with a $1000 ecu plus setup. I have already contacted X bikes to see what I am up for.

I have read most threads on the problem and there are going three positions 1) don't try I and fix it yourself 2) buy a techno research centroriun diagnostic tool and reset and balance the TP's and make sure the tps is at 2.1 degree or 3) get a remapped ECU.

I am going to have one more go at doing option two in case the ECU is fooled into thinking it is not actually at the right angle.
But why on a brand new bike the owner should be needing to do this is beyond me.

Cheers and thanks for the thoughts and comments.

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The only low speed issue I've found was that the brute gets a bit bucky crawling in traffic unless you ride the clutch, mainly due to the on/off nature of the fueling at very low rpm. I've also noticed that it does not like being held at 4k. I tend to keep it around 5+ for a smoother feel. Not sure if this is due to the exhaust valve activity or not. Regardless, I've found it manageable enough until I decide to upgrade exhausts, when it will become worth it to upgrade the ECU and clear up most of the fueling issues.

Maybe you're fueling is worse than mine and not a easy to live with, but if MV won't help you out, maybe look into a full exhaust system to help justify the additional ECU work Good Luck.

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