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What tools should F4 owners buy? Also, can an F4 be lifted from the rear frame?

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I have an engine crane, after removing the seat, is it OK to lift the bike using straps around the rear part of the frame?

My theory is since that part of the frame appears to be engineered to have ~200Kg (1+1 models) sitting on it, then it may be strong enough to lift half the bikes weight.

Second, what non typical workshop tools should an F4 owner have?
- Chain link tool
- 55mm 12 point 3/4 drive socket
- ???

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I attach a strap to the frame plates.
If you're going to lift by the sub frame, I do it as close to the front of it as possible.

Supporting the front wheel is going to be an advantage, though not critical.
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I attach a strap to the frame plates.
If you're going to lift by the sub frame, I do it as close to the front of it as possible.

Supporting the front wheel is going to be an advantage, though not critical.
Thanks for the pictures.

That front wheel stand - how do you get the bike onto it? I'm tossing up whether to weld something together or just go buy one. How much are they and do they have any pivots/linkages?

I've just picked up a Mitchy rear hub and would like to fit it so the initial tools are the big socket for the rear hub. Would you think picking up the frame from the battery area (anodized Silver) would be OK if the fuel tank is still in place, not having access to where you wrapped the straps?

I should give some background - I have most typical car workshop hand tools, eg
- 1/4 & 1/2 drive socket to 32mm, torx, allen key sets, torque wrench, up to 24mm spanners, plastigauge, feeler & dial gauges etc
- Compression tester, timing light, multimeter, CRO etc.
- H and BFH

What other specialist tools may I need in the future that a typical 'car' workshop may not have?

Thanks for all the suggestions and pictures,

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Thanks for the pictures.

That front wheel stand - how do you get the bike onto it? I'm tossing up whether to weld something together or just go buy one. How much are they and do they have any pivots/linkages?

I've just picked up a Mitchy rear hub and would like to fit it so the initial tools are the big socket for the rear hub. Would you think picking up the frame from the battery area (anodized Silver) would be OK if the fuel tank is still in place, not having access to where you wrapped the straps?

I should give some background - I have most typical car workshop hand tools, eg
- 1/4 & 1/2 drive socket to 32mm, torx, allen key sets, torque wrench, up to 24mm spanners, plastigauge, feeler & dial gauges etc
- Compression tester, timing light, multimeter, CRO etc.
- H and BFH

What other specialist tools may I need in the future that a typical 'car' workshop may not have?

Thanks for all the suggestions and pictures,

Cheers
You can pick up front wheel stand like that at any bikeshop in AU mate.

You can get the special 55mm wheel nut from any of the forum sponsors, this will make sure the tapered wheel nuts will not get damaged.

The 220nm torque wrench is important, Allen Key sockets and some circlip pliers.
You can get the special pliers for the hose clamp on ebay. Noel can get you the best oil filters at a great price.
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Yep I agree with all the above. I don't have an F4 but like to work on my Brutale..
It depends how far you wanna go and where to stop...
I've a hydraulic lift and set of ratchet straps...real useful.
Eddy..on the other hand gets by...with a baseball bat! (and after that., if he ever catches up with me will no doubt have a 'use for it' )
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The most useful tool by far for me has been my paddock stand. Being able to lift the entire bike off the ground safely is extremely useful. Alex from GP Racing has a decent deal on these. Makes life SOO much easier.

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