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Damn. I finally got to have the full MV owner experience.

Went to start the bike this morning. It was 46F out, and I didn't put the choke on (should have) and started the bike. It fired and idled briefly then died. No problem, kind of expected. Choke on, press button... Nothing.

Huh.

I switched ignition off, switch on, check kill switch, check neutral, pull in clutch after ECU check (no errors). Press start.

Nothing.

No click, no attempt to start, no solenoid rattle. Check battery V, over 12V with key on and lights all lit up. It ran fine yesterday.

I am initially suspecting the clutch switch, but will definitely dig into it methodically this weekend. It might be dirty.

I hopped on the 24 year old Ducati instead and headed to work.

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There is an excellent electrical trouble shooting guide in the Factory manual
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@falcn: As Noel mentioned, there is a troubleshooting guide in the shop manual for your bike. It is methodical and can be found here: Team Double 3 Racing | MV Agusta

That being said, I would first check the 40 amp fuse on the starting solenoid behind the battery. There are two fuses...one is a spare.

I would also then check the connections at the start solenoid for cleanliness and tightness.

Then check the four pin plug that connects the solenoid to the electrical system. This is a known failure point.

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Sorry that wasn't a question post or asking for pointers, it was just a note with a planned follow-up to help others when fixed. Venting about Italian bike ownership. 😄

Already planned the above mentioned items before I checked back here (fixed before I checked for replies).

It was the 4 spade plug on the starter relay box by the battery. Just slightly corroded I guess. I pulled it off and on several times.

The spades are clean, but I guess the interface was slightly corroded. I covered in dieletric grease and plugged back in and bike started right up.
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Just for surety, you should give those female spade receivers a bit of a squeeze with some pliers. This will ensure a better mechanical connection with lower resistance.
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Just for surety, you should give those female spade receivers a bit of a squeeze with some pliers. This will ensure a better mechanical connection with lower resistance.

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The engineer in me wants to design a new part with modern weatherproof connector....
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Had the same problem a year back. Left me stranded on the 101.
Replaced the relay with the Yamaha part and was good until my recent issues.

Glad you got it sorted!
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Had the same problem a year back. Left me stranded on the 101.
Replaced the relay with the Yamaha part and was good until my recent issues.

Glad you got it sorted!
What is the Yamaha part number? Is it the same design?

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It was probably not the replacement of the start solenoid that helped, but rather the removal and replacement of the connector.


The Yamaha part number is available by searching within mvagusta.net

Otherwise I will dig it up tomorrow.

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