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2010 990R Brutale - Immobilizer Issue

So I just picked up a 2010 990R Brutale and I seem to be running into an issue with the immobilizer or the keys.

If I'm riding the bike and then I park and shut it off for around 10-20mins - when I go to start it again it wont start and it makes me put the immobilizer code in again before I can start the bike.

Which is becoming quite annoying because it takes some time to do this, instead of being able to hop on the bike and go.


Has anybody ran into this issue before or is anyone aware of what might be going on? I've tried searching the forums and have found some info about the immobilizer/keys, but I can't seem to find anything on this specific issue. Is there a fix or workaround?




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That's a new one on me.

What else is going on? Does the dash reset when you try to start the bike?

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From the manual:

“IMMOBILIZER” Mode

The “IMMOBILIZER” lets the engine start only if it recognizes the original starter key. This is actually an anti-theft device built into the electronic circuit of the vehicle, since only authorized people are allowed to drive it.
Use the dashboard “IMMOBILIZER” only in the event of a breakdown. If for any reason the original key is not recognized by the system, you must manually enter the secret
code, which is on the MV Code Card, to let the engine start.


Do you have the original key, or is your key a reproduction?

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From the manual:

“IMMOBILIZER” Mode

The “IMMOBILIZER” lets the engine start only if it recognizes the original starter key. This is actually an anti-theft device built into the electronic circuit of the vehicle, since only authorized people are allowed to drive it.
Use the dashboard “IMMOBILIZER” only in the event of a breakdown. If for any reason the original key is not recognized by the system, you must manually enter the secret
code, which is on the MV Code Card, to let the engine start.


Do you have the original key, or is your key a reproduction?

The previous owner provided me with the original owners manual/box and two keys. Both keys have the -MV- logo on them, so I'm assuming they're the originals (could be wrong though). Do the orginaly keys start going bad, where they won't communicate with the system at some point?
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The only way I could see that happening is if the system was without electricity for an extended period of time.

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Another possibility is a dirty multi-pin connector for your dash. If the contacts are poor at pins 14 and 15, then the system might not recognize the key. Those pins energize the antenna that communicates with your key.

The connector is behind the mini-fairing on your dash.

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Also try the alternate key. Friend of mine dropped his key and it damaged the chip in the key.
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Another possibility is a dirty multi-pin connector for your dash. If the contacts are poor at pins 14 and 15, then the system might not recognize the key. Those pins energize the antenna that communicates with your key.

The connector is behind the mini-fairing on your dash.
I'll provide some more information in hopes that it will help the troubleshoot process.

I insert the key into the ignition, turn it over, and the dash lights up immediately. It goes through its quick startup sequence and then completes (see attached image for what the dash looks like right before I start).

I push the start button, nothing happen. Pull clutch in, then start button, nothing happens. I then navigate to the immobilizer menu, do the code...It says "Valid Code" - Clutch-in, start button, and bike fires up. (sounds basically like the quote you pulled from the manual)

What's interesting - Let's say I go to the gas station, shut the bike off, and remove the key to put gas. After I'm done putting gas I re-insert the key, clutch-in, and the bike starts right up - I don't have to put the code. Like I said though, if I let it sit longer than 10-20min, it's like it re-arms itself and I have to do the code all over again to start the bike.

I checked the connector, doesn't look dirty on either the connector side or the dash side (I took pics just incase, but nothing is really jumping out at me)

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Also try the alternate key. Friend of mine dropped his key and it damaged the chip in the key.
Tried both keys, same result unfortunately.



I know this is a touchy subject (open forum and all), but if there is a way to completely just bypass the immobilizer, I'm open to going that route - I'm not too concerned if the system is working or not. If this is an option for me, would somebody please PM or I can provide my email or phone # to chat about my options.


I have an MV dealer about 10mins from me, but I'm trying to just solve this with your guys help - so thank you so far. As a last resort I'll got there if need be.
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The start sequence for your bike requires the clutch switch to be pulled in. Forgetting that shouldn't activate the immobilizer.

What is the condition of your battery? That screen looks very washed out....could just be a bad photo.

The bikes are sensitive to voltage. It is imperative that you have a quality charged battery of sufficient capacity to start the bike.

That being said, does the dash auto reset when you have an unsuccessful start attempt?

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Crap picture on my part, screen is easily readable in person, not washed out. I don't think it's the battery, the thing starts up fine every time, just after the code has been put in - I'm not getting the typical symptoms you'd see with a drained battery. If I don't put the code in and all I do is just pull the clutch in and hit the start button; it does absolutely nothing, no change of screen, no noises, no attempt to start-up.

I haven't had an unsuccessful start attempt as of yet and I have not seen the dash auto reset at any point.
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