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Hi, I'm new to MV ownership but not new to riding MV. I raced a 312R a little over 10 years ago and have always had a passion for the brand for as long as I can remember. I've just bought a 2012 F4RR track bike which is completely stock at the mo so will be looking to do some simple mods to start with like exhaust and fueling. Any advice on the best route forward for this will be much appreciated, I've only ever used power commanders or stand alone ECUs in the past so if there are other/better options I'm all ears!!

I see there are a few UK track day guys on here, is there ever a specific mvagusta.net track day or anything?
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Welcome MartyBee from another UK member. Can't help you with any tips for your race bike but will watch your progress with interest.

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Welcome to the family @martybee58 .... I'm not much help with second generation F4 mods, but I am sure someone who has experience will chime in.

From what I have read, the newer ECUs can be mapped with available software. Power Commanders are kind of obsolete these days (why add a piggy back device when the ECU itself can be adjusted?).

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Welcome, not aware of any trackday group for the UK, Cadwell and Oulton are my fav in UK, woudl be good to occupy a garage and push the R1's and Zx10's out

2012 I assume is the last of the Magneti Marelli ecu's rather than the Eldor ecu's. If its the MM, microtec seems to be the way to go, Chris at Xbikes is the simplest. If you have the first of the Eldor ecu's (unlikely) then ECU Studio is the best way in my opinion.

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Thanks for the replies, I believe mine is the 2012 MM system..... I know Chris at X-Bikes, it was his MV team that I rode for back in the day!! That pic on my first post is one of his bikes. I'll see what he has to say and go from there.

Once my bike is up and running would be cool if we could organise a track day and get a few MVs there, which group do you go in Aaron? Do you see any stand out advantages/disadvantages with your MV vs the more common choices (R1, ZX10 etc)?
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Hi and welcome.

Can't contribute to the track talk, but when you get around to talking bikes in lounge rooms, I'm in!!

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I should say I hate Snetterton crashed there badly and I blame the circuit!

I raced for a few years gsxr's 600, 750's and 1000. With the MV if I'm going on my own i normally just go fast or inters as I tend to just want to have a little fun (see profile pic). If I'm with mates (i build their race bikes) then I go Fast group, so I can see what happening on track.

Pro's and Cons of the MV vs the current crop of bikes.
1. People walk past the HP4's to look at the MV, that always brings a smile to my face.
2. Power, to be honest I don't have issues on straights etc with being out powered, at the end of the day I have more power than I can lay down, so it's about using it. Torque, max throttle etc is all limited even if you turn the basic electronics off, at the end of the day there is a limit to traction, and we all suffer with it. So a few more Peak BHP makes no difference on a trackday or even average club race as you know.
3. Chassis, I really had to shed some weight from up high, coming from the japs, on the MV you sit high and the CoG is very high with the standard exhaust, it weighs a lot. Once I had that sorted I felt a lot more at home.
4. Throttle control, I prefer the control I have to that I have on the R1 (2018)
5. Brakes, not a lot in it here either. I run PFM iron disks and Ferrodo CP1 pads, with a Galespeed MC. I like quite a lot of initial bike, which with the high seat and weight was not a recipe for feeling safe.
6. Spares, here you have to say getting spares is harder, everywhere has what you need new or used for a GSXR, with the MV you have to be a little more prepared.
7. Tyres, not a problem getting good rubber obviously as they take the common fitments, but getting the rear put on the corrcet wayt around is sometimes a challenge as the see the arrow on the rim for tightening and assume that's for tire direction.

All in all I wouldn't swap for the R1 or ZX10
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I should say I hate Snetterton crashed there badly and I blame the circuit!
The new Snetterton layout or the old one? I like(d) the old and the new, probably because as its my local one its the one i ride the most. I find it good for testing as there is a good mix of slow and fast corners now.

Thanks for the in depth explanation, I'm sure between myself and Chris (X-Bikes) we'll get my one to a point where I'm happy with it, he's pretty good at taking my feedback and sorting out things to how i like. If I can get the bike and myself up to a respectable pace I may even enter a race or two.
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The new Snetterton layout or the old one? I like(d) the old and the new, probably because as its my local one its the one i ride the most. I find it good for testing as there is a good mix of slow and fast corners now.

Thanks for the in depth explanation, I'm sure between myself and Chris (X-Bikes) we'll get my one to a point where I'm happy with it, he's pretty good at taking my feedback and sorting out things to how i like. If I can get the bike and myself up to a respectable pace I may even enter a race or two.
It was the old layout at the end of the revit straight as was.

Personal preference circuit wise is a little strange for me, Cadwell and Oulton its the rise and fall that makes them special for me, but then its places like mallory, knockhill and Brands indy that also appeal. Although I can say I find Mallory was not fun on the F4.

As far as racing is concerned, that particular set of leathers are hung up and probably never to be dusted off.

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