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Auto-Retract the madness

Well, I would say my first experience with the auto-retracting sidestand on my fresh from the dealer F4 was less than perfect and rather frightening. So, given that this is my first experience with such a device that could only have been designed as a blatant attempt to sell more left side panels... what's the trick here?? The dealer said the best way is to dismount the bike, place and hold the sidestand down while leaning the bike over, then slide it backward to make sure it's engaged. I'm OK with all that, but there must be a way to simply take off a spring or bend something... ?
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I don't have the panels to worry about and I don't even know if the stands are shared between them and the Brutale, but the stand design does scare me. I don't dismount, though. I put the stand down, place my left foot down at the back of it and dismount pulling the handle bars back to keep things pressured against my foot, which is securing the stand.

Always make sure I am in gear and clutch to ensure that bike backs up against my foot prior to releasing clutch and swinging right leg off.

Sorry, if this does not translate well in text.

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The best way I've found is to put my left foot behind the peg and push it down with my toes. If I try to do it in front of the peg then I don't get the proper leverage and things are a little more scary.

You can replace the little metal plate the spring attaches to with a later item that will stop it auto retracting. You can either wait a year for an MV item (no joke - I have been until I cancelled it), or eMoto do one for about £20. Or I've heard a Ducati one (748/9x6 models) fits. Considering you'll still have the side-stand engine cut-out switch, you wont be risking anything (like a ride-away with it down) if you fix it.

Getting the bike on and off a rear stand with the self-retracting sidestand can be a bit hairy. In the past I've used a bungee cord between the stand and the front brake caliper to keep it down. Lately though I've found if I hold the bike by the bars and kick the rear stand away with my foot I can manage it anyway.

Si

PS. So does this mean you bought th 189 miles '00 750?

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Well, I would say my first experience with the auto-retracting sidestand on my fresh from the dealer F4 was less than perfect and rather frightening. So, given that this is my first experience with such a device that could only have been designed as a blatant attempt to sell more left side panels... what's the trick here?? The dealer said the best way is to dismount the bike, place and hold the sidestand down while leaning the bike over, then slide it backward to make sure it's engaged. I'm OK with all that, but there must be a way to simply take off a spring or bend something... ?
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There is another mod that a local MV dealer told me: Since the bolt that the stand pivots on screws into the back of the stand bracket, and then into the nut behind, the nut is only there for safety. If you shortened the bolt, left off the nut but lock-wired the bolt, the plate would pass behind and not force auto-retraction.

I'm loathe to start hacking up original MV parts, even just a bolt though, as they're probably as difficult for me to get hold of as any other OEM bit..

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[/QUOTE]PS. So does this mean you bought th 189 miles '00 750? [/QUOTE]


I sure did. Couldn't NOT buy it- too sweet. Been sitting in storage for almost 5 years. Still don't have her home yet- I'm having the dealer replace all the fluids, change the oil/filter. They're also powdercoating the wheels silver instead of the charcoal black for me, and even with the low-mileage I replaced the tires with a fresh set of Michelin Pilot Powers.

Hopefully will pick up this weekend...
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Call ferracci and order the $10 kit to convert it to a regular stand. It takes minutes to change with a pair of pliers, no unbolting necessary.

It will spare you from the misery you go through every time you put your bike down.
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Call ferracci and order the $10 kit to convert it to a regular stand. It takes minutes to change with a pair of pliers, no unbolting necessary.

It will spare you from the misery you go through every time you put your bike down.
Right, this should solve your missery. I had on my 2000 F4 a Conversion Bolt from Phil Reads shop. And I felt way more comfortable. I'm not as tall, rather little, and felt never save keeping the Side Stand in Position, leaning the Bike over, with my feet not touching the Ground. But what model Year are You talking about. I had the impression that Cagiva changed this with the first Evolution (2002). My actual 2001 F4 is not self retracting, but I do not know if Ferracci, or the former Owner, changed it. Or if this is already a Factory Mod.
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My side stand is converted on the MV but not on my Duc. Makes parking the bike up a doddle, always have my heart in my mouth with the Duc must get round to sorting out the stand. Bad design IMO

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Thanks to a chap from eMoto I managed to fix my side-stand at no cost. I phoned up the other day to order a replacement spring plate (£20) and he said I didn't need it, and that I could just use a wooden mallet to gently bash the bottom end of the plate forward, so the spring passes the pivot point.

I did that and it worked a treat! No disassembly, not new parts, no expense.

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