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Accident learnings?

With the new season closing in, it might be useful to look back at previous seasons where accidents happened. Why? No one likes talking about them.
True, but if we can learn from them, perhaps whilst they cannot be ruled out completely, it's possible that we might be able to reduce the reoccurance.

Before folks start mentioning non fault accidents, this thread is more about looking at yourself. It's easy to blame ice, salt, mud and diesel, but sometimes, just sometimes, we screw up.

I had a few close calls before having 2 high sides, the most recent being October 2011. What I hope I've learned is to always treat roundabouts and their exits and entry points the respect the surface conditions need with respect to oil and diesel on the surface and not to power down too early otherwise you soon meet the rear wheel coming round

I also learned early on not to overtake with right turns ahead and indeed when vehicles fail to indicate an intended right turn and commence the turn whilst putting in an overtake with no escape path......I shit myself that day back in 2005

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How about sharing and learning from it?

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Do I need to?? Some people will start to ask about the ditch...

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If a track was in the condition of British roads with potholes, diesel, members of the public in the lane, gravel, leaves etc then the race would be stopped. Therefore I don't race on the roads..

Some say that's boring . I don't give a flying one what they say or what they think ; )

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Whats all this about "season" thats your biggest problem you don't ride enough.
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I was confused a little bit about the right turn thing till I looked at your location.

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Whats all this about "season" thats your biggest problem you don't ride enough.
I ride all year

You can't be a real biker if you've never had an off moment or a close call.....or you don't get out enough


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Ironic that this topic pops up. I had a close call yesterday on my FZR400. Even on roads that you know well construction crews can pop in and change things on you. Entering a sharp blind hair pin that I love to exit at high speed I see a section of the turn that had been jackhammered up and there's gravel in it instead of pavement. After the initial holy crap moment I picked the bike up and altered the line so I could ride over it without being as aggressively leaned over. When riding on public roads one has to be prepared for the unexpected. Riding 100% committed to a turn is never a great idea as you never know what's waiting for you even on roads you know well.

It's kind of disturbing sometimes to see the threads where people blame other factors other than themselves. Ultimately when an accident happens it's the riders fault. You were either going too fast for your specific skill set or you failed to leave yourself an "out" in a case where something unexpected happens. Playing the blame game never lets you improve or become a safer rider.

Youtube is an endless source of amusement for "blame game" scenarios. One of my favorites is where a rider is going way too fast and does not expect a human obstacle in the road. Instead of blaming himself he blames others. Perhaps he was going too fast? Would it have been any different if it had been a tree limb or other item in the road? Moral of the story. Expect the unexpected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Gc-3w_nJo

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If a track was in the condition of British roads with potholes, diesel, members of the public in the lane, gravel, leaves etc then the race would be stopped. Therefore I don't race on the roads..

Some say that's boring . I don't give a flying one what they say or what they think ; )

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Pretty much. I'm much the same way myself.

I was doing a comfortable speed in heavy traffic on the interstate the other day and watched a group of squids pass me lane splitting between cars at 100+mph. They were probably saying to themselves "look at the slow guy on the MV". That's fine with me. I'm not willing to take that kind of risk on public roads.
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and at the same time it's not good to be bored cuz then we can switch off and ride on auto-pilot and that's not good either...

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