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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 10-19-2012, 10:05 AM Thread Starter
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New MV Price Negotiation - tips?

Generally speaking...is there any wiggle/negotiation room on the price of a new MV, assuming an all cash purchase?

Im getting my ducks in order for my next MV and I would be interested to hear how some of you approach the purchase price issue - I'm not much of a negotiator and would enjoy knowing how others here operate.
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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 10-19-2012, 10:48 AM
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Hi, Manhattan here as well. Not sure if this helps, but in the few hours that I was considering a current model MV, I saw a few 2012 leftovers at Beverly Cycles.
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I would presume that you have a dealer in mind? From my point of view that is more important than an upfront discount, and is worth a lot of $ in the longer term.
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I am curious....why would you do an all cash deal? Given the low cost of capital for anyone that has a reasonable credit score. If people were giving away free money, would'nt you take it. Keeping the cash affords you the choice, thus options, if you so decide to pay off the loan at a later date. There is no substitute for liquid. Of course this assumes that you have other more effective uses of your cash than what would otherwise be your effective interest rate of a loan. I know there will be some that disagree with me on this subject so I welcome the insight. From a negotiation standpoint, I don't think it makes a bit of difference to the dealership if its cash or not. I think there are some retired/current car dealer members here on the forum so they might have a different perspective on that subject.

My recommendation would be to buy very slightly used MV at this juncture rather than a new. You can always negotiate every deal but buying a slightly used one will be far less expensive for a variety of reasons (regional/national market conditions, supply, etc.). Also, I don't believe there are any substantive or appreciable differences in the new models over previous years.

Whatever you do. Good luck.

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I roll my bike into my office at work and keep it in an insured garage at night so I don't need theft insurance. I pay about 180 a year on just the insurance I need. AFAIK the premium would be considerably higher if I didn't own my bike.

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I am curious....why would you do an all cash deal? Given the low cost of capital for anyone that has a reasonable credit score. If people were giving away free money, would'nt you take it. Keeping the cash affords you the choice, thus options, if you so decide to pay off the loan at a later date. There is no substitute for liquid. Of course this assumes that you have other more effective uses of your cash than what would otherwise be your effective interest rate of a loan. I know there will be some that disagree with me on this subject so I welcome the insight. From a negotiation standpoint, I don't think it makes a bit of difference to the dealership if its cash or not. I think there are some retired/current car dealer members here on the forum so they might have a different perspective on that subject.

My recommendation would be to buy very slightly used MV at this juncture rather than a new. You can always negotiate every deal but buying a slightly used one will be far less expensive for a variety of reasons (regional/national market conditions, supply, etc.). Also, I don't believe there are any substantive or appreciable differences in the new models over previous years.

Whatever you do. Good luck.

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I roll my bike into my office at work and keep it in an insured garage at night so I don't need theft insurance. I pay about 180 a year on just the insurance I need. AFAIK the premium would be considerably higher if I didn't own my bike.
Ok, that is one additional consideration. However, it would have to be meaningful difference to make a tenable justification. Not being thick headed, just trying to understand.

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Also consider that if he was getting a loan from a bank or credit union it would still be an all cash sale as far as the dealer is concerned.

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I am curious....why would you do an all cash deal?

Simple.....I don't want any debt. I have a 3% mortgage, and I can't wait to pay it off early.

Additionally, I personally believe that you should never finance any type of lifestyle choice. Any motorcycle purchase is a lifestyle choice in my mind.

Education, shelter, and basic transportation qualify for reasonable debt in my opinion, but Rolex, Mercedes, Ritz Carlton, et. all should be paid for in cash.

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Simple.....I don't want any debt. I have a 3% mortgage, and I can't wait to pay it off early.

Additionally, I personally believe that you should never finance any type of lifestyle choice. Any motorcycle purchase is a lifestyle choice in my mind.

Education, shelter, and basic transportation qualify for reasonable debt in my opinion, but Rolex, Mercedes, Ritz Carlton, et. all should be paid for in cash.
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What about: "Life is too short to marry a mean ugly woman, or ride an ugly motorcycle?"

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