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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 09-24-2012, 06:57 AM Thread Starter
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Angry Cops trapping riders on old pacific hwy

JUST THOUGHT I SHARE THIS FROM ANOTHER FORUM,
I received the email below from the MCC regarding an entrapment of motorcyclists on the Old Pacific Highway, that I thought you might be interested in.

You may be interested in a little scam and entrapment exercise the NSW Highway Patrol have been running recently on the old Pacific Hwy at Mooney Mooney just North of the Hawkesbury River.

The Old Pacific Hwy is a favourite for motorcycle riders on weekends and many hundreds will make their way along its scenic winding length visiting the cafes and restaurants, meeting and socialising, particularly when it is a fine sunny day as it was last Sunday (Sept 16th 2012).
Taking advantage of the fine warm conditions the NSW Highway Patrol set up a TRAP for Motorbike Riders where they waited on a gravel verge in a grey Nissan X-Trail SUV for riders to round a bend whereupon the Nissan SUV blasts off the verge in a shower of dust and accelerates into the path of the Riders then suddenly slowing and forcing the riders to either brake heavily or if they think the SUV is actually politely waving them past, actually overtake by momentarily crossing the double white lines, which can be done very quickly and safely (on a motorbike) and is what my companion, I and many others did on the day.
The sting then takes place a few kilometres down the road where a couple of Highway Patrol cars pick up the riders and book them after being radioed their details by the SUV team who have recorded the whole shabby ENTRAPMENT exercise on video.
We would like to request that other parties such as perhaps yourself who are interested in the appropriate and ethical application of the law and traffic regulations for the good of the community and not just the revenue target needs of the NSW Highway Patrol and the NSW State Government, could ask the NSW Highway Patrol how this ENTRAPPMENT sting really contributes to improving road safety and what impact it will have on the reputation of the Police in the community being targeted by this shabby revenue raising scam.

I am also looking to find as many other riders caught up in this scam and put together a formal joint complaint and legal response and would appreciate it if you could distribute this message.

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LEOís the world over do similar with regularity. Tennessee State Troopers have been known to use a slow moving vehicle on Deals Gap in a similar manner. They force vehicles to cross solid lines and exceed the posted limit then pull over the unsuspecting violators at the over look. Itís just a cash grab. Nothing more then turning LEOs into rolling tax collectors.

What really bothers me about these entrapment scenarios is how the authorities justify such tactics by claiming their focus is on safety. It has nothing to do with collecting fines. Ya, right!

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mvrick,unbelievable and friggin dangerous.Hope the QLD police dont take a leaf out of their book.Thanks for sharing the story.


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JUST THOUGHT I SHARE THIS FROM ANOTHER FORUM,
I received the email below from the MCC regarding an entrapment of motorcyclists on the Old Pacific Highway, that I thought you might be interested in.

You may be interested in a little scam and entrapment exercise the NSW Highway Patrol have been running recently on the old Pacific Hwy at Mooney Mooney just North of the Hawkesbury River.

The Old Pacific Hwy is a favourite for motorcycle riders on weekends and many hundreds will make their way along its scenic winding length visiting the cafes and restaurants, meeting and socialising, particularly when it is a fine sunny day as it was last Sunday (Sept 16th 2012).
Taking advantage of the fine warm conditions the NSW Highway Patrol set up a TRAP for Motorbike Riders where they waited on a gravel verge in a grey Nissan X-Trail SUV for riders to round a bend whereupon the Nissan SUV blasts off the verge in a shower of dust and accelerates into the path of the Riders then suddenly slowing and forcing the riders to either brake heavily or if they think the SUV is actually politely waving them past, actually overtake by momentarily crossing the double white lines, which can be done very quickly and safely (on a motorbike) and is what my companion, I and many others did on the day.
The sting then takes place a few kilometres down the road where a couple of Highway Patrol cars pick up the riders and book them after being radioed their details by the SUV team who have recorded the whole shabby ENTRAPMENT exercise on video.
We would like to request that other parties such as perhaps yourself who are interested in the appropriate and ethical application of the law and traffic regulations for the good of the community and not just the revenue target needs of the NSW Highway Patrol and the NSW State Government, could ask the NSW Highway Patrol how this ENTRAPPMENT sting really contributes to improving road safety and what impact it will have on the reputation of the Police in the community being targeted by this shabby revenue raising scam.

I am also looking to find as many other riders caught up in this scam and put together a formal joint complaint and legal response and would appreciate it if you could distribute this message.
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LEOís the world over do similar with regularity. Tennessee State Troopers have been known to use a slow moving vehicle on Deals Gap in a similar manner. They force vehicles to cross solid lines and exceed the posted limit then pull over the unsuspecting violators at the over look. Itís just a cash grab. Nothing more then turning LEOs into rolling tax collectors.

What really bothers me about these entrapment scenarios is how the authorities justify such tactics by claiming their focus is on safety. It has nothing to do with collecting fines. Ya, right!

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If you could identify it coming out in front of you, it would be tempting just to go straight into the back of it.

Straightforward drive without due care according to UK law - making other road users brake/change direction to avoid a collision.
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A good reason for a full time bike mounted camera / recorder. Beat 'em at their own game.
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They have apparently been doing it in Victoria around the reefton and Black spurs too. There is footage of the cops in Camo gear hiding in the bushes radioing ahead with descriptions etc on youtube.

Pretty sure there is a complaint about that lodged which you may be able to use as supporting evidence.
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Isn't it funny how politicians, police and their ilk are here to 'Serve Us'! Yet the reality is far different, and it is apparent their main function is to keep us the people, subservient to an Orwellian type machine with tactics as described above.. highly unethical stuff, but no surprise at all
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Isnt it funny how they claim it's for road safety but don't target black spots. It's no use bringing this minor fact up with politicians as it's their coffers there swelling.

I appreciate the police have a job to do, but at least do the job where it's needed.

Call it what you want but to me it's blatant revenue raising. Studies have shown that if you really want to reduce speeding in a area, a VISIBLE police presence is the most effective deterrant.

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Every year, the Southern Ontario Mini Owners Club organizes two charity drives - one in the Spring and one in the Fall. Over time, the event has grown from a handful of participating cars to over 30, and so last year the organizers let local law enforcement know where the caravan would be and when it would be there as a courtesy. So far, so good, right? Not exactly.

During the first part of the drive, the convoy ran into a few members of the Ontario Provincial Police without incident. One officer even went so far as to tell the organizers that there was only one other patrol for the rest of the route. Turns out that wasn't quite true.

Instead of providing an escort for the convoy or thanking the organizers for a heads up, the OPP set up a speed trap along the route where the limit changes from 100 km/h to 90 km/h. When the parade of Minis came past, officers pulled over the whole lot, and cited three cars for going 121-123 kmh in a 90 kmh zone, (approximately equal to 76 in a 55). One driver was also cited for having a radar detector and had his equipment confiscated.

As if setting up a speed trap on a charity drive wasn't bad enough it got even worse. The OPP had called the local television station beforehand so they could film the whole sting. To add insult to injury the station not only aired the footage but they got the story wrong (or perhaps their OPP source gave them incorrect information) claiming that 11 of the Mini drivers had been arrested for doing 50 kmh over the speed limit and that they had their vehicles confiscated as a result. Even worse, the story claimed that some of the Mini drivers had their children with them and that the OPP had called the Children's Aid (the Canadian equivalent of child services) to report the parents.

Members of the Mini club complained to the T.V. station, and the video was taken down as a result, though no apology or retraction has been issued so far.

As far as I know the OPP have never commented on the incident.

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