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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-17-2012, 01:04 AM Thread Starter
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So, just came back from my local motorcycle show, and had a chance to view both the 1199 and the F4RR side by side.

As a long time time Ducatista, and new owner of an F4, I have to state my disappointment with Ducati. It seems they have chosen function over form. Have you seen the mirror housings and stem? Absolutely the cheapest brushed black plastic available! Seriously ??!! Two large black wires stick up and out by the rear shock assembly on the left side! Some sort of little black plastic (same cheap material as previously mentioned) housings on either side of the engine just below the tank, which feel like they are fastened with a paper-clip. Also, that ugly exhaust system is a site to behold! Even the paint doesn't have the deep luster it once had. For the price......unacceptable!

Compare the F4RR, where they still remember pride of ownership. They still remember how to combine function with form. Everything is tight, lustrous, functional, and like a jewel. The white paint rich, smooth, and almost silky. They even took the time to paint the mirror housing!

To me, these types of motorbikes are a luxury and not utilitarian. A luxury that probably only 0.01 % of the people that own them can actually ride them and utilize their fantastical function. So why not make it special?

So to MV Agusta I say, "thanks for keeping the dream alive and beautiful". Ducati, " shame on you! Shame on you for becoming a more egotistical Japanese manufacturer!"

My '92 851 wonders what happened to his heritage?!

Just one dudes opinion.
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but the ducati will still destroy the mv when ridden!! and i actually think the panigale looks ok!
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but the ducati will still destroy the mv when ridden!! and i actually think the panigale looks ok!
Why does it come equipped with MV heat seeking missiles?

Seriously put Rossi & Stoner on one each and you may see something, other than that the weekend warrior wannabes need to enjoy their bikes more & less, there would be less fatalities too. These are essentially road bikes albeit very fast ones.

The 0.01% Hwood refers to below is spot on. I couldn't ride one to its limits if my life depended on it (and am happy to admit it) & you know what else? I won't allow my life to depend on it For that reason, I am happy they make them special.

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As a long time time Ducatista, and new owner of an F4, I have to state my disappointment with Ducati.

A luxury that probably only 0.01 % of the people that own them can actually ride them and utilize their fantastical function. So why not make it special?

Just one dudes opinion.
I liked your post, nicely written, my apologies for cutting it down, I was using the pertinent bits for devilboy for illustrative purposes.


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Agree... sport bikes have long exceeding the skills of the mortals astride them, but there is an HP crazed marketplace who can't think through this.


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I'll keep my 916.


(.....and possibly add an F3 )

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I don't think using the MV's mirrors as an example of combining "form with function" is possibly the best part of the bike to pick!

They're a bit like having the wing mirrors of your car mounted to the steering-wheel!!!

The older I get, the faster I was!
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Lol

That was sarcasm dude.

How you do one thing.....is how you do everything.
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I don't think using the MV's mirrors as an example of combining "form with function" is possibly the best part of the bike to pick!

They're a bit like having the wing mirrors of your car mounted to the steering-wheel!!!

- Very good, well played indeed!


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Function over form? That's not new with Ducati. It's like 2003 all over again.
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