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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-14-2019, 01:14 AM Thread Starter
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Hi everyone,
Looking into a 2010+ F4 (only model that could make me buy older would the 1078 312rr) or an F3 800 2014+. Which of the 2 had less known “issues” and how easy are they ironed out in each model? Low speed fueling can be fixed with a power commander or just a new map from MV? F4 overheating can be sorted with a fan upgrade? Sprag clutch with the F3 still a problem or mostly sorted through recalls? Please let me know if I am missing anything here and any experiences anyone has with these bikes. Anything would help.

I would be riding it to work every so often and taking it on fun rides as well obviously. I also do have an MV dealer only 15mins from where I live so that’s another reason why I’ve decided to buy an MV.
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Just buy an F4.... You will not be disappointed.
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Just buy an F4.... You will not be disappointed.
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I’m from Sydney, Australia. Don’t quite know how to add that to my profile. Parramatta MV Agusta is about 10mins from where I live so that’s a massive bonus for me.

2010< F4’s seem to have so many mods available for them and I guess that could be perceived as either good or bad depending on how you look at it. I guess because I’m from Sydney, the main thing I want to manage is heat. I know I won’t be able to totally get rid of the heat but I would love to do all I can to somewhat manage it. Which fans are best to add?
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You may be surprised to find the heat isn't that big a deal in the real world. Want some heat? try a Ducati Panigale
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There is a fella from Lisbon on another thread asking the very same question. (F3 or F4)

I feel fortunate just having been to MV Parra, they are a national MV asset. In my opinion.

There are some reasonably priced F4s on bike sales, the cheapest are generally the std F4 pre-ABS models. Depending upon how much you wish to spend, and how much technology you want, that could be a good place to start. If you are patient, and lucky, as I was, there are always bargains to be had. The good folk at MV Parra may even have something turn up, and in my experience will give you sound and informed advice.

I hesitated at first before buying an MV, but within six months I had bought another, an F4. Wow. Rides take longer then they might because when I stop, I invariably spend a lot of time walking around it, in wonder. You will also have to like talking to other people, recently a woman in her 80s who was walking past commented how 'lovely' it looked. Filling up at the servo always take longer as well, there are always admirers who want to ask about it.

The F4 is much more comfortable than I would have expected, it is not a Turismo Veloce but it is not uncomfortable once you get used to it. The mirrors are more useful for making sure your hair is neat than looking behind you, unless you contort yourself. The quickshift, if fitted, is not to be relied upon if you are going to do something 'heroic', like overtake a long line of cars with traffic approaching.

I find the F4 remarkably tractable, but I suggest you try riding one in traffic before buying one. My first ride on an F4 was in Syd traffic, in did not deter me but I do not ride to work. I have a cycle for that.

I have heard many anecdots about different brands of bike 'getting hot', but that does not mean they are overheating, they are just shedding that heat, and it is most keenly felt by the rider. Imagine Brisbane traffic in summer! F4s do not like traffic, mine certainly doesn't, it gets hot quickly, (not overheating, just hot) and fuel economy, which is actually very good (15-19 kpl), plummets in traffic and on short rides. Once moving at about 80kph, the heat & temp gauge subside. The reality if that Japanese bikes are much less troubled with traffic and summer. Dunno why.

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Yes you are 100% right. I had the pleasure of riding a friends Panigale for a week as he loaned it to me whilst he went away on holiday and I found the heat on that bike bearable as long as I flared my knees off the bike every so often to let some air onto the insides of my legs so I don't think heat will bother me all too much.

As far as reliability, I just sold my RVF400 NC35 and that was my daily rider. Carb bike as old as me (literally) and although it needed to be tinkered with constantly and would barely crank over some mornings, I still loved the hell out of it and the fact that it was headache of a bike didn't really bother me because of how it looked and how it handled. So even if the MV wasn't so reliable I still don't think that would deter me.

I've been to MV Parra a few times and actually had a quick chat to one of the lads on the phone who gave me some sound advice. Pleasure to deal with and I haven't even given them a cent (yet). Comfort won't be too much of an issue as I am 25 and keep fit so my back and wrists will allow a sport bike posture for years to come, hopefully.

I have seen a few 2015 models advertised at $17k (a beautiful grey 2012 model with 5000kms, an arrow corse exhaust and carbon bits just sold a day before I inquired about it for $13,500. I was disheartened but am very patient and don't mind waiting for the right one) but the highest I'd go would be $15k which I believe can buy me a very good example of an F4. Lithium battery should be the first thing to add if it hasn't been added already from what I understand? Pre-purchase inspection necessary by a mechanic if possible?
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Lithium battery is not a absolute must do item. A good battery is required, but a quality and properly serviced AGM battery will do just fine.

The ONLY real advantage of a lithium battery is weight. Not worth the premium over a Yuasa AGM in my opinion. The YTZ10 Yuasa batteies in my bikes last 8+ years and start the bike every time.
Had a Shorai in my SPR track bike when I bought it...with the Shorai dedicated charger it lasted 5 years. There is a Yuasa in it now.

So if the battery in the bike is good, spend your money elsewhere.

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