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Tamburini Upgrade Question(s)

I have been going back and forth, keep my Tam, sell it, buy a 1098R, etc...I also have a 749R that I ride a lot and enjoy. Lately, I have falling back in love with the Tamburini, as it's a joy to ride, a work of art and one of the coolest bikes I've ever owned, but here's my quandary:

As I get to be a better rider, the bike's weak point become more obvious, the front brakes aren't great, the forks sluggish, no slipper clutch, notchy throttle and the rear shock hard (at least for me) to adjust...and where better than the front forks, it too is a little weird. Another issue is it runs hot (it'll shoot up to 240 in traffic in a heartbeat) The bike is bone stock.

If I start swamping all these things out, I'm going to spend a decent amount of money and I have no idea exactly what I'll get handling wise. Anyone out there have experience with what I'm going through, or any input? I'm all ears.
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I have been going back and forth, keep my Tam, sell it, buy a 1098R, etc...I also have a 749R that I ride a lot and enjoy. Lately, I have falling back in love with the Tamburini, as it's a joy to ride, a work of art and one of the coolest bikes I've ever owned, but here's my quandary:

As I get to be a better rider, the bike's weak point become more obvious, the front brakes aren't great, the forks sluggish, no slipper clutch, notchy throttle and the rear shock hard (at least for me) to adjust...and where better than the front forks, it too is a little weird. Another issue is it runs hot (it'll shoot up to 240 in traffic in a heartbeat) The bike is bone stock.

If I start swamping all these things out, I'm going to spend a decent amount of money and I have no idea exactly what I'll get handling wise. Anyone out there have experience with what I'm going through, or any input? I'm all ears.
Hi Donnie

The front fork action can be vastly improved by simply changing the oil viscosity and air gap . Insuring the front & rear suspension sag and adjustments are set up for your riding style and weight takes sometime, but once youíve achieved these settings youíll find that MVís are one of the best handling bikes out there.

The front brakes are slightly lacking in performance in comparison to some of the modern production Brembo Mono-blocks. The OEM and Gold Nissan calipers can be considered a weak point of the system, and you can increase their stopping power by fitting sintered pads.. In my opinion the Nissan master cylinder is adequate for the job, as itís the same one fitted to all the later 1000S, 312, 1078 & Veltro models and I hear of no one complaining about the brakes on these bikes.. However, if you go down the road of fitting the Brembo MC as a common modification by lots of MV owners, then youíll find that the braking performance will greatly improve without having to do any further mods ..

Try a set of Muzzy fans.. This wonít improve the running hot issue, but when the fans cut in these blades will bring the temperature down quicker..

Have you had a custom engine map done for you bike ??

These improvements are reasonably cost effective and wonít alter the wonderful aesthetics of your Tamburini model.

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DBGRAVES,

Consider these options:

!: change to brembo master cylinder and matching clutch reservoir, like my setup. and racing brake pads...brakes will improve significantly.

2: find an ohlins suspension specialist, and change front springs AND get bike set up for you specifically...it will be a night and day difference.

3; avoid traffic...( I know little about fans...rarely do I get caught in traffic and heat is not an issue for me)

4: You don't really "need" a slipper clutch, but could put one on if you wanted.

If bike is running fine don't fuk with it.

Whats your mileage? Just ride the thing and stop jerkin... YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sound advice and exactly what I was looking for...I love this forum, thanks so much for the help and input. Anybody have any suspension specialists suggestions for the Southern California area?
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You may want to contact one of the track clubs out your way for an ohlins specialist. Look at the wera site...
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I have been going back and forth, keep my Tam, sell it, buy a 1098R, etc...I also have a 749R that I ride a lot and enjoy. Lately, I have falling back in love with the Tamburini, as it's a joy to ride, a work of art and one of the coolest bikes I've ever owned, but here's my quandary:

As I get to be a better rider, the bike's weak point become more obvious, the front brakes aren't great, the forks sluggish, no slipper clutch, notchy throttle and the rear shock hard (at least for me) to adjust...and where better than the front forks, it too is a little weird. Another issue is it runs hot (it'll shoot up to 240 in traffic in a heartbeat) The bike is bone stock.

If I start swamping all these things out, I'm going to spend a decent amount of money and I have no idea exactly what I'll get handling wise. Anyone out there have experience with what I'm going through, or any input? I'm all ears.
suspension is something that is not easy, but you have enough adjustments possible to get it right. a freind of mine went to the superbike clamps with monoblocks which is a mayor inprovement.
Have you got the rg3 on an remapped for TPS, it should not be twitchy anymore, it can be established.

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Mr. Graves: Here I go again, ranting. You are the conservator of what I consider one of the high water mark of contemporary motorcycling art. A Tambo is not a motorcycle, it's a work of art. Please don't do anything that will irreversably modify the bike. Collectors 100 years in the future will thank you. I do very much understand that it is your bike, and your money, and that my opinion doesn't matter, but you asked....My suggestion: Invest in a more pedestrian bike, even a more standard MV or so, and modify to your heart's content.

In summary, would you try to improve on the Mona Lisa, just because her smile wasn't quite right?

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I have been going back and forth, keep my Tam, sell it, buy a 1098R, etc...I also have a 749R that I ride a lot and enjoy. Lately, I have falling back in love with the Tamburini, as it's a joy to ride, a work of art and one of the coolest bikes I've ever owned, but here's my quandary:

As I get to be a better rider, the bike's weak point become more obvious, the front brakes aren't great, the forks sluggish, no slipper clutch, notchy throttle and the rear shock hard (at least for me) to adjust...and where better than the front forks, it too is a little weird. Another issue is it runs hot (it'll shoot up to 240 in traffic in a heartbeat) The bike is bone stock.

If I start swamping all these things out, I'm going to spend a decent amount of money and I have no idea exactly what I'll get handling wise. Anyone out there have experience with what I'm going through, or any input? I'm all ears.
Keep the Tam stock AND buy a 1098R! Problem(s) solved.
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I'm gonna vote for the conservator side as well, I'd keep it stock...

The front brakes are fine, just change the fluid and the pads and you will be amazed, and Randarosa won't know you did it.

As for suspension, bring it out to Fontana whenever a trackday is there (not necessarily to ride the track), or Willow Springs if it is closer, and go find Dan Kyle's representative (Tows a trailer that says, "Dan Kyle Racing"), he will set your race sag, help sort compression and rebound up front, and high/low compression and rebound in the rear, as well as ride height. He really can do quite a bit with what is already on the Tambo, all for about $40.00 and 20 minutes of your time.

Used F41000R's are now under $20K, or get something else to hack and whack...

My two cents are spent...

Good luck either way

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