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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 06-14-2008, 08:52 AM Thread Starter
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bring back the two strokes.... Its time

i was just watching the old GP from 93 at laguna and was thinking
what if they put the following on two stroke designs:
electronic FBW throttle (to handle the two stroke kick)
Di tech engine management (to handle emissions and prevent us from having to commit to a pre-mix and would increase MPG. Hell. Works for Aprilla)

this would bring back light weight/ high power/ low and easy maintenece bikes i.e. cheap street/track bikes.

all you smart guys chime in here

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I love the oil burners!!! I have three of them, Honda CR250, Honda NS50, and Yamaha YSR50...I love the smell of burning two-stroke in the morning...Smells like...VICTORY!!!

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Im with U guys on that one- Love those two strokes , And the smell of ricine oil ( it defines racing)
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I can only imagine what would be if the two-strokes where given equal rules to the tractors, err, four strokes. Imagine an 800cc two-stroke with well developed traction control, a wider powerband and more torque. That would be something to see. Sadly, I don't think we'll see them back and I'm afraid the 250's will be leaving soon as well
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I can only imagine what would be if the two-strokes where given equal rules to the tractors, err, four strokes. Imagine an 800cc two-stroke with well developed traction control, a wider powerband and more torque. That would be something to see. Sadly, I don't think we'll see them back and I'm afraid the 250's will be leaving soon as well

Yep. Sadly they will be replacing 250s with 600s in 2011. I just hope they decide to bump the 800s back up to 1000s.

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it all is time and development
if racing rules where kinder to two strokes (oh yeah, and if the EPA stayed off the tracks) we would get what we needed
i mean look at the benies the V-twin got just to stay
no love for stink wheels?? (i miss my RGV)

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I love the oil burners!!! I have three of them, Honda CR250, Honda NS50, and Yamaha YSR50...I love the smell of burning two-stroke in the morning...Smells like...VICTORY!!!

+1 for Tree!

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Do any of you guys remember the kawasaki triples, affectionately known as the widow makers for obvious reasons ??

The 750,s are still a well respected bike even in todays terms and I regularly see a 500 raced at flat track meetings pulling a sidecar and winning consistently even against 1000cc suzuki 4 stroke motor

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I don't think it's the demise of 2-strokes that's made much of MotoGP boring. I think it's the advances in engine management, traction control, etc. I'd like to see all that electrics stripped from the current 4-strokes. Then we'll see who can truly ride them!

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post #10 of 18 (permalink) Old 06-16-2008, 09:09 AM
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hey, here's an article that motorcycle.com wrote on a Yamaha concept, a new, direct-injected two stroke.


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