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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-11-2019, 07:16 AM Thread Starter
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RC Owners and ABS

I have a MY19 Dragster RC and my GF has a MY19 Dragster RR. The ABS can be adjusted on the RR, but can not be adjusted on my RC. The RR has an ABS mode, but the RC does not. Is this the same for all RC models?

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The only thing that I can come up with is that your GF's RR versions is build in Q3/Q4 of 2018, and your RC in Q1 2019 and the new european rules are implemented in your version.
While im not 100% sure of this, the new rules say that bikes from 2019 on must have ABS ON at all times and cannot be disabled.

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My Turismo RC is 2017 and ABS can be switch off or adjust sensitivity levels.
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The only thing that I can come up with is that your GF's RR versions is build in Q3/Q4 of 2018, and your RC in Q1 2019 and the new european rules are implemented in your version.
While im not 100% sure of this, the new rules say that bikes from 2019 on must have ABS ON at all times and cannot be disabled.
Spot on. As confirmed by MV Customer Service. All new bikes must not have facility to switch ABS off. MY RC therefore has ABS on all the time, showing as setting number 1 and no 'mode' to adjust it.

Fine by me. One less thing to fiddle with

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Spot on. As confirmed by MV Customer Service. All new bikes must not have facility to switch ABS off. MY RC therefore has ABS on all the time, showing as setting number 1 and no 'mode' to adjust it.

Fine by me. One less thing to fiddle with
Till you wanna do a trackday and notice your bike wont stop cause ABS is f*king up your braking.

No joke, The boiis over at 44teeth did some laps around Jerez with a couple 2019/20 bikes.
Honda, Kawasaki, BMW, Ducati superbikes what have you not. The kawasaki had that new ABS rule implemented and coudnt be turned off.
The bald dude almost shat himself and ran wide into turn 1. ABS was preventing him from propper braking.

So....yeah. Always ON isnt the best choice for superbikes if you tell me.

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Till you wanna do a trackday and notice your bike wont stop cause ABS is f*king up your braking.

No joke, The boiis over at 44teeth did some laps around Jerez with a couple 2019/20 bikes.
Honda, Kawasaki, BMW, Ducati superbikes what have you not. The kawasaki had that new ABS rule implemented and coudnt be turned off.
The bald dude almost shat himself and ran wide into turn 1. ABS was preventing him from propper braking.

So....yeah. Always ON isnt the best choice for superbikes if you tell me.
Yep, I know all about ABS and track bikes, as my Fireblade had the ABS removed for the track. Track days are long gone, for me, now. The closest my Dragster will get to the track is in the car park

Surely ABS is a good thing for road bikes of any Genre?
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I dont care what people say.
ABS is better than NON ABS for street use for any sort of bike model.

If someone drops by and says: "REAL RIDERS DONT NEED ABS"
Congratulations on that opinion
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I dont care what people say.
ABS is better than NON ABS for street use for any sort of bike model.

If someone drops by and says: "REAL RIDERS DONT NEED ABS"
Congratulations on that opinion
I have only experienced abs on a mt09 during a 2 hour test ride, I found it very intrusive and and dangerous. if I brought the bike I would of disconnected it immediately.

I'm sure it's nice to have that safety net hanging around in the background just incase of an emergency, however on the road I have locked the front wheel a few times in an emergency and I can honestly say if I had abs it would not of helped my situation at all and would of only made things worse (extended braking distances).

I found the best solution was to completely release the brake to regain full control the bike and take evasive action (steer around the obstruction albeit at a higher speed)

I'm sure ABS algorithms are getting better all the time and there are systems out there that actually work.

MY OPINION IS electronics are NO substitute for riding skill obtained by time in the saddle.

That said I brought my F3 because of the riding aids, I explored the limitations and turned them off permanently.
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I have only experienced abs on a mt09 during a 2 hour test ride, I found it very intrusive and and dangerous. if I brought the bike I would of disconnected it immediately.

I'm sure it's nice to have that safety net hanging around in the background just incase of an emergency, however on the road I have locked the front wheel a few times in an emergency and I can honestly say if I had abs it would not of helped my situation at all and would of only made things worse (extended braking distances).

I found the best solution was to completely release the brake to regain full control the bike and take evasive action (steer around the obstruction albeit at a higher speed)

I'm sure ABS algorithms are getting better all the time and there are systems out there that actually work.

MY OPINION IS electronics are NO substitute for riding skill obtained by time in the saddle.

That said I brought my F3 because of the riding aids, I explored the limitations and turned them off permanently.
Surely that can not be correct; 'if I had abs it would not of helped my situation at all and would of only made things worse (extended braking distances).'?

If you skid you are out of control, surely ABS gives you a certain amount of control back? Having said that, I am sure ABS is far more effective on vehicles with more than 2 wheels.
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Surely that can not be correct; 'if I had abs it would not of helped my situation at all and would of only made things worse (extended braking distances).'?

If you skid you are out of control, surely ABS gives you a certain amount of control back? Having said that, I am sure ABS is far more effective on vehicles with more than 2 wheels.[/QUOTE]

Yes, a skid indicates you are out of control, and releasing the brake helps you regain control.

My problem with ABS is that people tend to rely on it too much in a panic situations ie. Grab a shit load of front brake and don't let go hoping that ABS will save your ass. Likelyhood is your still going to hit the very object you were trying to avoid.
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