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#1 · (Edited)
Hola compañeros, en principio quiero felicitaros por vuestro foro de MV AGUSTA pues aqui en ESPAÑA desconozco que exista alguno.

Por otra parte quisiera disculparme por no expresarme en ingles pues no lo domino.

si alguien pudiera asesorarme de que neumaticos le puedo poner a mi F4 312 R para que me duren un poco mas de los 3000 km que me duran los Dunlop GP RACER 190-55-17, la moto no la meto en circuito aunque tengo que reconocer que mi conduccion es bastante racing.

Gracias de antemano. :f4:
 
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jccr1969 said:
Hola compañeros, en principio quiero felicitaros por vuestro foro de MV AGUSTA pues aqui en ESPAÑA desconozco que exista alguno.

Por otra parte quisiera disculparme por no expresarme en ingles pues no lo domino.

si alguien pudiera asesorarme de que neumaticos le puedo poner a mi F4 312 R para que me duren un poco mas de los 3000 km que me duran los Dunlop GP RACER 190-55-17, la moto no la meto en circuito aunque tengo que reconocer que mi conduccion es bastante racing.

Gracias de antemano. :f4:
Hola, bienvenido al web site, aqui siempre podras encontrar respuestas a algunas de tus necesidades.

En mi opinion podrias utilizar pirelli supercorsa, estos los tengo en mi actual MV y my 1098.

Cualquier otra consulta estamos a tu orden,

Sam :naughty:
 
#3 ·
hoooooola

jccr1969 said:
Hola compañeros, en principio quiero felicitaros por vuestro foro de MV AGUSTA pues aqui en ESPAÑA desconozco que exista alguno.

Por otra parte quisiera disculparme por no expresarme en ingles pues no lo domino.

si alguien pudiera asesorarme de que neumaticos le puedo poner a mi F4 312 R para que me duren un poco mas de los 3000 km que me duran los Dunlop GP RACER 190-55-17, la moto no la meto en circuito aunque tengo que reconocer que mi conduccion es bastante racing.

Gracias de antemano. :f4:
Hola desde Madrid. Bienvenido al foro.
Enhorabuena por la moto, es una maravilla.
Yo llevo montados unos Dunlop Qualifier Gp Réplica y todavía no me han desfallecido (llevo más de 3000), si bien es certo que mi F4S tiene menos caballos a la rueda trasera que la tuya.

si pasas por Madrid, rulamos por la sierra, la zona de la Cruz Verde es territorio MV...:mouthwate

por cierto, ¿por dónde andas tu?

vsssss:::::::::
 
#4 ·
samuray said:
Hola desde Madrid. Bienvenido al foro.
Enhorabuena por la moto, es una maravilla.
Yo llevo montados unos Dunlop Qualifier Gp Réplica y todavía no me han desfallecido (llevo más de 3000), si bien es certo que mi F4S tiene menos caballos a la rueda trasera que la tuya.

si pasas por Madrid, rulamos por la sierra, la zona de la Cruz Verde es territorio MV...:mouthwate

por cierto, ¿por dónde andas tu?

vsssss:::::::::
Siento la tardanza en contestarte pues estaba desconectado del foro.

Soy de Vilanova i la Geltru (Barcelona), en cuanto a lo del neumatico, creo que los qualifer Gp Replica son algo mas durillos que los Gp Racer aun y asi no estoy muy seguro de que duren mucho mas, no se? la verdad esque los que llevo ahora se me an quedado cudrados del centro y mira que llo no soy de abrir gas a fondo en rectas pues lo mio son las reviradas llevo 3000 Km y la verdad no creo que me aguanten para ir a Madrid este 20-21 de octubre a la 1ª concentracion de MV AGUSTA nacional, por cierto no se si te han avisado de ello, de lo contrario te puedo enviar via mail el programa de dicha concentración.
UN CORDIAL SALUDO. :popcorn:
 
#5 ·
NEXTMV said:
Hola, bienvenido al web site, aqui siempre podras encontrar respuestas a algunas de tus necesidades.

En mi opinion podrias utilizar pirelli supercorsa, estos los tengo en mi actual MV y my 1098.

Cualquier otra consulta estamos a tu orden,

Sam :naughty:
Gracias por contestarme compi.

Creo que los Super corsa son de la misma dureza que los Gp Racer, neumaticos de circuito pero omologados para calle, no?,

en mi opinion creo que si la MV no la vas a meter en circuito no es tan necesario unas gomas de tanta calidad sacrificando tan desproporcionado desgaste.
UN CORDIAL SALUDO.:f4:
 
#6 ·
jccr1969 said:
Siento la tardanza en contestarte pues estaba desconectado del foro.

Soy de Vilanova i la Geltru (Barcelona), en cuanto a lo del neumatico, creo que los qualifer Gp Replica son algo mas durillos que los Gp Racer aun y asi no estoy muy seguro de que duren mucho mas, no se? la verdad esque los que llevo ahora se me an quedado cudrados del centro y mira que llo no soy de abrir gas a fondo en rectas pues lo mio son las reviradas llevo 3000 Km y la verdad no creo que me aguanten para ir a Madrid este 20-21 de octubre a la 1ª concentracion de MV AGUSTA nacional, por cierto no se si te han avisado de ello, de lo contrario te puedo enviar via mail el programa de dicha concentración.
UN CORDIAL SALUDO. :popcorn:
Bueno, igual los GP Réplica se me van abajo en 500 kms...es la primera vez que los uso...ya te contaré.
En mi antigua moto (una R1-06) solía montar unos Michelin Pilot Power 2TC que iban muy bien. aprox 6000 kms y con buen agarre. Eso si, en cuanto desfallecían hacían cosas muy raras, sobre todo el delantero. ¿los has probado?

No tenía ni idea de la concentra... de MV???.
Pásame datos y web para apuntarme, ya era hora de que nos juntásemos.

vsss:::::
 
#7 ·
samuray said:
Bueno, igual los GP Réplica se me van abajo en 500 kms...es la primera vez que los uso...ya te contaré.
En mi antigua moto (una R1-06) solía montar unos Michelin Pilot Power 2TC que iban muy bien. aprox 6000 kms y con buen agarre. Eso si, en cuanto desfallecían hacían cosas muy raras, sobre todo el delantero. ¿los has probado?

No tenía ni idea de la concentra... de MV???.
Pásame datos y web para apuntarme, ya era hora de que nos juntásemos.

vsss:::::
Los Michelin no los he probado, pero estaba pensando en algo mas duro tipo Sport/turing de 8000 a 12000 km, creo que tambien tienen muy buen agarre y los llevan montados algunas miles de 150 cv.

Vsssssssss.
 
#9 ·
Appears to be tires in discussion, doesn't it??? Guess we need to cut and paste into babel fish translator????
 
#10 ·
Hello companions, in principle I want felicitaros by your forum of MV AGUSTA then aqui in SPAIN I do not know that some exists. On the other hand it wanted to excuse to me not to express to me in ingles then I do not dominate it. if somebody could advise me which neumaticos I can put to him to my F4 312 R so that a little last to me but of 3000 km that last Dunlop to me GP RACER 190-55-17, moto I do not put it in circuit although I must recognize that my conduction is enough racing.

Hello, welcome to the web site, aqui always podras to find answers to some of your necessities. In my opinion podrias to use pirelli supercorsa, these I have them in my present MV and my 1098. Any other consultation we are to your order,

Hello from Madrid. Welcome to the forum. Enhorabuena by moto, is a wonder. I take mounted a Dunlop Qualifier Gp Retort and still they have not become weak (I take to me more than 3000), although is certo that my F4S has less horses to the back wheel that yours. if you pass by Madrid, rulamos by the mountain range, the zone Green de la Cruz is territory MV... by the way, by where you walk your?

I feel tardanza in contestarte because it was disconnected of the forum. I am of Vilanova i the Geltru (Barcelona), as far as the one of the neumatico, believe that qualifer Gp Replica they are something but durillos that the Gp Racer and asi I am not even very safe that they last much but, not? the truth esque those that I now take to me an been cudrados of the center and sight that llo I am not to open thorough gas in straight lines because mio is the reviradas ones I take 3000 km and the truth I do not believe that they hold to me to go to Madrid this 20-21 of October to 1ª national concentration of MV AGUSTA, by the way if they have warned to you of it, otherwise you I cannot be sent via mail the program of this concentration

Thanks to answer compi to me. I believe that Super corsa is of the same hardness that the Gp Racer, omologados neumaticos of circuit but for street, no, in my opinion I believe that if the MV you are not going it to put in circuit so out of proportion wearing down is not so necessary rubbers of as much quality sacrificing.

Good, equal the GP Retort go away to me down in 500 kms... is the first time that them use... already I will tell you. In my old moto (a R1-06) it used to mount a Michelin Pilot Power 2TC that went approx 6000 very well kms and with good it takes hold. That if, as soon as became weak made things very rare, mainly the forward. you have proven them? It did not have nor idea of concentrates it... of MV. Pásame data and Web to aim to me, already was hour of which we joined ourselves


The Michelin I have not proven them, but it was thinking about something but hard Sport/turing type of 8000 to 12000 km, I believe that also they have very good takes hold and they take them mounted some thousands of 150 cv
 
#11 ·
jccr1969 said:
Los Michelin no los he probado, pero estaba pensando en algo mas duro tipo Sport/turing de 8000 a 12000 km, creo que tambien tienen muy buen agarre y los llevan montados algunas miles de 150 cv.

Vsssssssss.
José Carlos,
yo no les montaría a la MV unos sport/turismo bajo ningún concepto. Te vas a llevar muchos sustos y te van a obligar a tener un ritmo muy bajo con ese pedazo de pepino.
Date cuenta que son los neumas que montan las motos tipo BMW F800, BMW RT, FJR, neumáticos que entrando fuerte en curva e inclinado (como el pilotaje de esta moto lo requiere y lo pide) te la juegas.

Monté en mi R1100S durante un tiempo los Bridgestone BT020 (ahora se llaman BT022). van muy bien, duran 7-8000 kms. pero no permiten una conducción racing ni yo lo intentaría.

Prueba los michelín, te van a gustar.

vsss:::::::
 
#12 ·
esq'z me said:
Hello companions, in principle I want felicitaros by your forum of MV AGUSTA then aqui in SPAIN I do not know that some exists. On the other hand it wanted to excuse to me not to express to me in ingles then I do not dominate it. if somebody could advise me which neumaticos I can put to him to my F4 312 R so that a little last to me but of 3000 km that last Dunlop to me GP RACER 190-55-17, moto I do not put it in circuit although I must recognize that my conduction is enough racing.

Hello, welcome to the web site, aqui always podras to find answers to some of your necessities. In my opinion podrias to use pirelli supercorsa, these I have them in my present MV and my 1098. Any other consultation we are to your order,

Hello from Madrid. Welcome to the forum. Enhorabuena by moto, is a wonder. I take mounted a Dunlop Qualifier Gp Retort and still they have not become weak (I take to me more than 3000), although is certo that my F4S has less horses to the back wheel that yours. if you pass by Madrid, rulamos by the mountain range, the zone Green de la Cruz is territory MV... by the way, by where you walk your?

I feel tardanza in contestarte because it was disconnected of the forum. I am of Vilanova i the Geltru (Barcelona), as far as the one of the neumatico, believe that qualifer Gp Replica they are something but durillos that the Gp Racer and asi I am not even very safe that they last much but, not? the truth esque those that I now take to me an been cudrados of the center and sight that llo I am not to open thorough gas in straight lines because mio is the reviradas ones I take 3000 km and the truth I do not believe that they hold to me to go to Madrid this 20-21 of October to 1ª national concentration of MV AGUSTA, by the way if they have warned to you of it, otherwise you I cannot be sent via mail the program of this concentration

Thanks to answer compi to me. I believe that Super corsa is of the same hardness that the Gp Racer, omologados neumaticos of circuit but for street, no, in my opinion I believe that if the MV you are not going it to put in circuit so out of proportion wearing down is not so necessary rubbers of as much quality sacrificing.

Good, equal the GP Retort go away to me down in 500 kms... is the first time that them use... already I will tell you. In my old moto (a R1-06) it used to mount a Michelin Pilot Power 2TC that went approx 6000 very well kms and with good it takes hold. That if, as soon as became weak made things very rare, mainly the forward. you have proven them? It did not have nor idea of concentrates it... of MV. Pásame data and Web to aim to me, already was hour of which we joined ourselves


The Michelin I have not proven them, but it was thinking about something but hard Sport/turing type of 8000 to 12000 km, I believe that also they have very good takes hold and they take them mounted some thousands of 150 cv
:laughing:

is the most funky translation I have never read....ho-ho..:!!!! That machine translators really need to be improve....ja-ja

Just some lines to give you a brief summary,

Jose Carlos (who does not speak english at all) is a new member on the Forum. He has a wonderful F4312, but has problems with the duration of their tyres Dunlop GP RACER. He ask for some advice on that. He said that he would like to have long duration on tyres around 8.-12000 kms. I said that this is impossible except you set on the bike a pair of sport-tourism tyres, which for me IS NOT RECOMMENDED, AND HIGHLY RISKY from my point of view.

what do you think, guys?
 
#13 ·
samuray said:
:laughing:

is the most funky translation I have never read....ho-ho..:!!!! That machine translators really need to be improve....ja-ja

Just some lines to give you a brief summary,

Jose Carlos (who does not speak english at all) is a new member on the Forum. He has a wonderful F4312, but has problems with the duration of their tyres Dunlop GP RACER. He ask for some advice on that. He said that he would like to have long duration on tyres around 8.-12000 kms. I said that this is impossible except you set on the bike a pair of sport-tourism tyres, which for me IS NOT RECOMMENDED, AND HIGHLY RISKY from my point of view.

what do you think, guys?
Creo que tienes mucha razon, en cuanto a lo de las sport/turing, lo decia mas que nada porque hace unos años tuve una GSXR-1100-R y me imaginaba que si con las gomas que existian en aquella epoca podia ir tan rapido, ahora con la tecnologia que existe en las sport/turing serian de mejor comportamiento si cabe.
Provare las Pilot 2ct, tengo un pequeño problema y es que el neumatico delantero aun esta nuevo y no se si canbiarlo o por el contrario notare inestabilidad por llevar dos gomas de diferente fabricante.
Una ultima cosa SAMURAY agradezco lo de las traducciones de español a ingles, me encantaria poder traducir las paginas que excribo existe algun programa para ello?


Vsssssss.
 
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#15 ·
esq'z me said:
Samuray,

Perhaps you could translate some of this thread for him. He isn't the first with tire questions,

http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11894

and, Yes, Babel Fish is humorous at times. That's why I copied it in here.:silly:
Good boys already I have found a translator although it is not very

precise.

To which decia that remembers rubbers of 20 years ago, then that that

they are not either of so bad takes hold sport/turing of now no?

ademas, is necessary to give a little vidilla to the japos no?

 
#16 ·
#17 ·
jccr1969 said:
Good boys already I have found a translator although it is not very

precise.

To which decia that remembers rubbers of 20 years ago, then that that

they are not either of so bad takes hold sport/turing of now no?

ademas, is necessary to give a little vidilla to the japos no?

es una traducción terrorífica, camarada..los traductores de internet funciónan fatal.:banghead:

prueba el traductor del mundo http://www.elmundo.es/traductor
a ver si te va mejor.

en el mensaje anterior esq´z me te facilita un link en el que básciamente puedes encontrar un resumen comparativo de gomas:

***Michelin Pilot Road 2 : will give you good mileage and good grip on wet
***Dunlop Qualifier 208 RR : very good grip, ok on wet, decent mileage
***DiabloCorsaIII : excellent grip, good on wet, average mileage
***Metzeler M1 : very good to excellent grip, very good mileage, ok to weak on wet

***Michelin Power 2CT : good grip, decent mileage, OK on wet
***Michelin Power : avg grip, weak mileage, OK to weak on wet

good grip significa buen agarre.
good mileage, significa buena duración.
wet significa húmedo, por lo tanto comportamiento en mojado.

ok to weak siginifica bien a regular...

por lo tanto, metzler M1 muy buenos pero en mojado débiles
Michelin Power 2CT, bien balanceados en todos los aspectos...etc,
yo creo que hay una comparativa por internet, voy a buscarla y te copio el link.

vsss::::
 
#18 ·
#21 ·
Hello Nacho,
I have the brochure for the MV meeting at Jarama, send me a PM with your email, address and will be send it to you.

How about the average mileage of the Pirelli Dragon???
vsss::::
 
#22 ·
samuray said:
Hello Nacho,
I have the brochure for the MV meeting at Jarama, send me a PM with your email, address and will be send it to you.

How about the average mileage of the Pirelli Dragon???
vsss::::
Thanks Ricardo:

Ok, I will send to you a PM with my e-mail.

Relating the Pirelli, my last mileage/Km was about 4.500 Km, but normally no more than 4000.

But if you like to ride sportive on the road, they are a "live insurance", for sure.
 
#23 · (Edited)
got it. I will try next time on the bike the Pirelli tires.
how about wet conditions? I have heard that not very good performance on that...

vsssss::::
 
#25 · (Edited)
MADRIDF4R said:
Well, I´m so sorry, but I´ve never ride my F4 in wet conditions.

I like to ride for enjoy, not for suffering.(je,je,je).:)
so, do you keep the bike from November to May in the garage??? je-je-je...
In Sierra de Madrid you never knows what is going to be happen upon the next hill...:):)

Is yours a F4R-SE??? (summer edition)...:D:D...just kidding...!!!

vsssss:::::::
 
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