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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 02-23-2007, 08:11 AM Thread Starter
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Falling Out of Second Gear

Reading Sventekoz's post about his false neutral in 6th reminds me of an issue I've been having.

Under HARD acceleration...like freeway on-ramp 90% to WFO throttle position...my bike will often slip out of second gear. I use clutchless upshifts and think I'm being pretty solid, though I'm certainly not a gorilla about it. My chain is on the loose side of spec - maybe a little outside of that - but the problem started when the chain was still within specs (BTW, anyone know if there's a problem w/ tightening the chain w/ the bike on the side stand? The old owner wanted $100 for it so I don't have a stand at the moment).

Anyone else experience this?
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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 02-23-2007, 08:32 AM
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Nope - luckily I haven't had that one yet (touch wood)...

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No problem with using side stand for chain adjust.! Did it all the time with my Trump. SP3
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post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old 02-23-2007, 06:34 PM
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Clutchs are not for just going and stoping. you probley fucked up your gearbox by shifting without a clutch. its not a dirt bike.
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According to everything I've heard and read, if you do it properly there's no problem with clutchless upshifts.

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During the first few hunderd miles on my new 910s it liked missing second and sixth gear a good bit and finding a false neutral. I use my clutch when changing gears. On a short ride last weekend the gear box seemed to shift a lot better and I had zero false neutrals - so maybe break-in time is all it needs.

If you are past break-in, maybe you should take it to the dealer and have it checked out.
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Thats a big if. Its bad for the gear box if you shift without the clutch.
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post #8 of 21 (permalink) Old 02-23-2007, 08:30 PM
 
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Sounds like it only happens when your hard on the gas. Has it ever missed when shifting normal? Clutchless shifting won't harm the bike, but learn how to do it properly.
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First of all, thanks for the input...from everyone.

Yes, it only happens when I'm hard on the gas.

FWIW, and there's no way to put this that doesn't sound like defensive bragging, but I spent a couple of years on the staff at a pretty major cycle rag. I know how to upshift properly w/o the clutch. In this case the method of shifting may not be important, but most of the time when I'm on the gas that hard I'm also shifting without a clutch, so that has yet to be tested.

It doesn't miss...it falls out. Almost like the dogs have gotten old and cut. I wouldn't be surprised to have this happen on an older bike. I'm just wondering if anyone else has experienced similar problems. In the mean time I'll adjust the lever down so that I'm positive a have full engagement, then see if I can't reproduce the problem.

The bike's got about 3500 miles on it.
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Ok, I'm convinced you can ride the crap out of it. Which pretty major cycle rag?
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