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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 11-07-2007, 09:43 PM Thread Starter
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ok, is the 154hp rear wheel HP or crank HP on the new 1078????!!!

im sure nobody here knows, because i searched. But if the 1078 in the Brute is the same as the one in the F4, then shouldnt it be more than 154 at the crank. Should be something like 180 HP!!!??!!!??
154 sound too conservative for 1078c.c.

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yes all brutales have more moderate cams for more midrange torque and less peaky power!
thats why the difference

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Guaranteed it's crank HP. it's moderated from the F4 (and other 1100cc I4 SS engines) because the camshafts for the Brutale are selected for optimum midrange power, rather top-end peak power.

BTW, I wouldn't have it any other way! Top-end peak HP is useless on the street.

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I looked into this when I first bought my 910R, and the cam spec's from the 1000s are almost identical if I'm not mistaken. If they are only claiming 154hp, that piss poor put of 1078cc's.
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really???!!!!! then WOW!! i hope so.

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154hp rear wheel HP
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If they are only claiming 154hp, that piss poor put of 1078cc's.
Hardly. Depends what the entire power curve looks like. Peak power by itself is pretty meaningless since it's impossible to ride at the peak for more than a moment unless... a) you're content maintaining a constant speed or b) you've got a 24 speed transmission. The rest of the curve matters. A lot. I'll take a flat 145 over 160HP worth of spike any day. Hell, even Mick Doohan couldn't ride that stuff without maiming himself.

Obviously they could have gotten more peak HP out of that many cc's as they currently get more out of less. On a bike like the Brutale a wide and fat power curve is what they were after. For obvious reasons.

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Hardly. Depends what the entire power curve looks like. Peak power by itself is pretty meaningless since it's impossible to ride at the peak for more than a moment unless... a) you're content maintaining a constant speed or b) you've got a 24 speed transmission. The rest of the curve matters. A lot. I'll take a flat 145 over 160HP worth of spike any day. Hell, even Mick Doohan couldn't ride that stuff without maiming himself.

Obviously they could have gotten more peak HP out of that many cc's as they currently get more out of less. On a bike like the Brutale a wide and fat power curve is what they were after. For obvious reasons.
You missed my point. With that many CC's on hand, a healty, flat, and tractable curve should be more than attainable, along with a screaming top end. I still think 154hp is a little embarassing from that size engine in an inline 4 configuration, especially when ducati is pulling similar #'s out of a twin.

This arguement as to what you are actually going to use always cracks me up, what the hell does it matter if I ever reach my motocycle's limits or not? I didnt buy my 910R beacuse I knew I would use it to its fullest potential , its part of the fun to have more than I need.....no one NEEDS a $20K sportbike, but here we are.
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MV have never quoted 'wheel hp' before so why would they start now? the 1078 F4 is quoted at 190 hp at the crank, if that was 'wheel hp' as well the crank figure would be around the 225 mark

wheel hp's are very hard to repeat from bike to bike, the figure will be crank hp from an engine dyno.
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