F3 Head / Valve Failures Statistics by MY - Page 3 - MVAgusta.net
View Poll Results: Did you experienced head / valve Failure on your F3 bike ?
Yes, MY 2012 10th position of my VIN is a C 1 3.45%
No, MY 2012 10th position of my vin is a C 4 13.79%
Yes, MY 2013 10th position of my VIN is a D 2 6.90%
No, MY 2013 10th position of my vin is a D 5 17.24%
Yes, MY 2014 10th position of my VIN is a E 2 6.90%
No, MY 2014 10th position of my vin is a E 3 10.34%
Yes, MY 2015 10th position of my VIN is a F 2 6.90%
No, MY 2015 10th position of my vin is a F 1 3.45%
Yes, MY 2016 10th position of my VIN is a G 0 0%
No, MY 2016 10th position of my vin is a G 3 10.34%
Yes, MY 2017 10th position of my VIN is a H 1 3.45%
No, MY 2017 10th position of my vin is a H 1 3.45%
Yes, MY 2018 10th position of my VIN is a I 0 0%
No, MY 2018 10th position of my vin is a I 0 0%
Yes, MY 2019 10th position of my VIN is a J 0 0%
No, MY 2019 10th position of my vin is a J 0 0%
Yes, Other MV 3 Cilinder Models [TV, Brutale etc] 0 0%
No, Other MV 3 Cilinder Models [TV, Brutale etc] 4 13.79%
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post #21 of 72 (permalink) Old 11-25-2017, 02:44 AM Thread Starter
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If your VIN isn't listed on the vin list your bike is not affected, it's as simple as that.

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Is your VIN higher than what's in PDF? Do you know what month bike was made? Maybe the issue was caused by outside supplier so part in question didn't make it to all of the 2017 bikes.
One person on forum had his engine replaced with a early/mid 2017 built engine and it blew a valve. My 2017 replacement engine was held up in early September to make sure it was fitted with latest head that is suggested in the PDF.
My VIN number is lower.
And I made the order in June 2016. So either it has been build in July 2016 or September 2016. Since in August Italy shuts down. The bike was delivered at my dealership first week of October.

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The first portion of the VIN designates the specific model. ie: 800 or 750. F3 or Brutale, etc
The last 7 digits are the production sequence number.

Google VIN Decoder for detailed explanations (such as the "Z" indicates made in Italy)

Since they know which heads were made with the defective parts, and their inventory controls tell them when those cylinder heads went to the assembly line, they know what production sequence had defective parts installed.

If your number is not on there, then your engine was not built with the known defective parts. Any gaps in the number sequences will relate to either units that had already been addressed (the failed units that brought about the investigation and this resultant repair bulletin, or units that were repaired at the factory prior to shipment).

Therefore if you want a new head, without having suffered a failure, it will be at your expense.

It is entirely probable, that valve failures on bikes not within this list were the result of some unrelated problem, and not the identified defective parts.

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My VIN number is lower.
And I made the order in June 2016. So either it has been build in July 2016 or September 2016. Since in August Italy shuts down. The bike was delivered at my dealership first week of October.
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My bike has a silver sticker on the upper frame rail nearthe steering head that states it was built by MV on 06/20/12, (June 20, 2012). However,the tenth character of the bike’s VIN is a “D” clearly making it MY 2013.Furthermore, the bike landed in Canada around July 12, 2012.

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F.Y.I.
My bike has a silver sticker on the upper frame rail nearthe steering head that states it was built by MV on 06/20/12, (June 20, 2012). However,the tenth character of the bike’s VIN is a “D” clearly making it MY 2013.Furthermore, the bike landed in Canada around July 12, 2012.

ALL manufacturers....car and motorcycle, etc.....start to build and sell next year's model during the preceding year.

If my memory serves...you could buy a 1959 Chevy in the fall of 1958.

I know for a fact that there are lots of 2018 bikes and cars on showroom floors at dealers everywhere right now. As a matter of fact, I've been riding a 2018 GSX-S750 Suzuki since late August. (I have to give it back in another month....oh well.)

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ALL manufacturers....car and motorcycle, etc.....start to build and sell next year's model during the preceding year.

If my memory serves...you could buy a 1959 Chevy in the fall of 1958.

I know for a fact that there are lots of 2018 bikes and cars on showroom floors at dealers everywhere right now. As a matter of fact, I've been riding a 2018 GSX-S750 Suzuki since late August. (I have to give it back in another month....oh well.)

Ed, you old wing nut... My point was to Black_Gold_Saw not knowing which month, July or September, his bike was built.

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F.Y.I.
My bike has a silver sticker on the upper frame rail nearthe steering head that states it was built by MV on 06/20/12, (June 20, 2012). However,the tenth character of the bike’s VIN is a “D” clearly making it MY 2013.Furthermore, the bike landed in Canada around July 12, 2012.
On my silver sticker it says nothing about a date of build. Atleast not in the way I expect it to be.
Day/month/year or month/day/year.
Although my sticker says something about Decibel units at a specific RPM range under the vin number. Which could be typical Europian bull**** information.
and above the vinnumber on same sticker E3*----/--*---- but none of those numbers make any sense unless my bike is build in 2024. XD

And if I look further to the steeringhead the vinnumber is printed into the frame, but nothing else.

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On my silver sticker it says nothing about a date of build. Atleast not in the way I expect it to be.
Day/month/year or month/day/year.
Although my sticker says something about Decibel units at a specific RPM range under the vin number. Which could be typical Europian bull**** information.
and above the vinnumber on same sticker E3*----/--*---- but none of those numbers make any sense unless my bike is build in 2024. XD

And if I look further to the steering head the vin number is printed into the frame, but nothing else.
What you are looking at is the emissions compliance sticker. Required as proof that your vehicle, as delivered, meets all applicable noise and pollutant emissions standards in force at the date of manufacture in the country that vehicle was originally shipped to.

The date of manufacture may not be evident on that sticker. It is irrelevant anyway. The VIN tells you what year model you have.

Interestingly, not all countries subscribe to the same VIN standards and larger manufacturers (Japanese) will build bikes with country specific VINs. So confusion can occur if you get a bike originally shipped to one of those countries.

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What you are looking at is the emissions compliance sticker. Required as proof that your vehicle, as delivered, meets all applicable noise and pollutant emissions standards in force at the date of manufacture in the country that vehicle was originally shipped to.

The date of manufacture may not be evident on that sticker. It is irrelevant anyway. The VIN tells you what year model you have.

Interestingly, not all countries subscribe to the same VIN standards and larger manufacturers (Japanese) will build bikes with country specific VINs. So confusion can occur if you get a bike originally shipped to one of those countries.
No its also shows my VIN number and a different code. But not the specific month it has been build like mr.stevens bike did.
Could also be possible that its totally different stickers for USA and Europe. And ofcourse 2013 vs 2017 bike.

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The emissions compliance sticker usually incorporates the VIN, sometimes the model name as well.

Different countries, different regulations.

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