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post #1 of 77 (permalink) Old 06-27-2007, 11:56 AM Thread Starter
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f41000r next to r312?

Sorry if this becomes arised again but I wonder if any of you has tested and compared the F4 1000R and the F4 R312?

If so, what are the differences in fueling, power band, general engine performance, gearbox operation?

I remmember Mike saying he was not happy with his 1000R on the 5000rpms range, does anybody coment this on the r312?

I am considering to trade my S and not sure if I shall go for the R312 or the R.

Thansk for your advice.
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a few mombers have said that thier 312's have better fueling ....and the 5k surge isn't there..... maybe they'll chime in and have a say..... Lewis??
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Some people said the power band at low rpms on the S was better than the R version, then it came the R312 and magazines wrote "this bike has poor low rpms power band than the previous model", others read " the general engine performance on the r312 is better". where do we stay ????
Thatīs why I am asking to anyone who tried both and can compare.
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the S model is better at lower revs.... the R and 312 have more revs than the S model, as well as higher top speed (if that matters), and better internal components, as well as re-worked intake and such....but one downfall is that they run just a bit hotter than the S model...which runs hot too... kinda damned if you do, damned if you don't (but in a good way)
For the street, it has been recomended that that the S is better for stop and go's and just all out drivability and you can't benefit from the R or 312 until you hit the tracks (from a racers point of view)
So it's really up to the customer(s) that want the bike..... I feel that I wouldn't benefit from getting a 312 or R model since I won't be able to push any of the three bikes to their limits with my skills.... although I am a great rider
All that aside..... the new 312 still has me interested and gets me thinking of what could be
It's harder to upgrade the 312's exhaust, atleast to get rid of the "cat"
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Manuel, since you're planning on upgrading from your S, get the 312R
I never rode the R so i can't say anything about it, but buying new now the 312R is the way to go, for sure.

I already told you what are my feelings about the 312R vs my previous S, so i won't say anything more.
Hope others chime in here and state their view

Now, here's my advice............. stop thinking about it anymore and get your ass to the dealer this next Saturday (i'll be there for first service) to pick up your brand new 312R and we'll met up there
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go with the 312......although it may not have quite the low down grunt as my S, it is definitely smoother fueling than my S (even with with ti mid, rg3s and PC).

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You know, there's a rumor that a redesign may show up at Milan in November.
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You know, there's a rumor that a redesign may show up at Milan in November.
So they say around the camp fire...
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You know, there's a rumor that a redesign may show up at Milan in November.
Alan, I saw that a few times...is the rumor about a design or could an actual bike may show up at Milan? Nothing like speculation

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All I know is what I've read on this board plus some speculations like: 1) a ten year old run for the 916 and 2) Tamburini saying a design needs to remain fresh for 10 years, and 3) the MV's been around since 1999, and 4) Cagiva's gots some cash to go racing (not like they're going bankrupt).
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