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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-06-2007, 12:48 PM Thread Starter
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F4-1000R vs. 1098S

hi all,

I 've been away for some time now.

Some of you know that I sold my F4-1000R to buy a 1098S.

I now have 5200km on the 1098S, so I can compaire the bikes now.

First of all I want to say that I always loved the design of the F4. Even before I had my license, I fell in love with the F4-750. The design is simply amazing!! Even now, 10 years old, it can still fit in between current bikes.
So here we go:

The used materials don't give much difference. There is no difference in riding "feel" between the ohlins fork and rear shock on my 1098S and the Marzocchi and Sachs from my F4-1000R. Both bikes are extremely stable under high speeds. Now that I finally mounted a 190/55 (wich is the standard tire for the 1098S, as it is for the F4-1000R) i must say that it steers lighter then my MV. A difference in weight (that untill I mounted the 190/55) I only felt when I was riding slow or parking the bike. The wheels are completely the same.

Overall finish of the MV is better. The detailed finish of the mirrors, paintwork, etc... it 's just better then on the 1098S. As everyone over here knows, the fairings from the F4 come of in 10 sec. The ones on the 1098S are bolted on with 666 lil screws...

Brakes... of the 1098S are better! Better? Yes, the BITE. First couple of hundred km you HAVE to get used to them. Once used to them, stopping power is amazing. When I owned the F4, I couldn't imagine how any brakes could be better then the ones on the F4, but they can!

So how is the power output compaired to the F4?

The 1098 (1098 and 1098S have identical engines) has a lot of torque! Power comes out rough and starting at 4000RPm it feels like an animal. Contrary to other twins that I testrode, the 1098 pulls untill the rev limiter kicks in at 10700Rpm. So it does have that endrush feeling like on a 4 cyl, but on a 4 cyl the feeling of the endrush is more intense because of the increasing engine sound, were the twin allready barks from idle.

Because of the torque and I guess it's weight, the 1098 lifts it's nose comming out of corners, when you wack that throttle open. so really spectacular experience!

top speed of the F4 is higher! the 1098S hits 286km/u (on GPS) and that is what most jap 4 cyl sportsbikes hit on a GPS. It does hit it's rev limiter in 6th. So when you change sprockets, top speed could go up, but it would accelerate slower.

So what is the best bike? hard to tell. They are different!

The MV has the best looks (but that's a personal opinion) and the best overall finish. But the 1098S is also spectacular to ride at low speeds, you don't need the endrush to have fun due to the torque.

I had a lot of warranty issues with my F4-1000R and its fuel consumption was a nightmare compaired to my 1098S.
I will always like an F4 and I am glad I owned a F4-1000R, but I don't mis it. I like my 1098S and (like the MV) it keeps me in the garage for hours, just looking at it.

I hope you liked my 1098S review. I tried to be honeoust.

This is my 1098S at the moment:



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Nice write up Peet. I think you have been very honest with your assessment of both bikes. One question, you mention the fuel consumption of the F4 is worse than the 1098 but doesn't the 1098 have a very small tank so it's range is quite poor?


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Hi peet! Glad you came back to let us know how it was all going. Your 1098S looks great.

It's unfortunately you had the warranty issues ont he F4R. What kind of gas mileage are you seeing on the 1098S with similar riding behaviour? Miles per tank?

They are both great bikes, and very different as you say. Low end torque is very appealing for its own reasons. Both beautiful bikes
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Nice write up Peet. I think you have been very honest with your assessment of both bikes. One question, you mention the fuel consumption of the F4 is worse than the 1098 but doesn't the 1098 have a very small tank so it's range is quite poor?
the range is the same. But the Ducati has a smaller tank.

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Peet, what range were you getting with the F4?
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Peet, what range were you getting with the F4?
80 - 90 Miles.

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Nice review, Peet

They are both great bikes, no doubt.

The best would be to have them all
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I just got the 1098S.

Two completely different bikes.

A few things I would also add to the assessment.

The 1098 vibrates alot taking away from feel from front end, takes a little getting used to.....the whole v-twin thing. I think the MV feels more stable at all speeds....especially at high.
The 1098 feels light and flickable but twitchy but the MV needs a little bit more effort ( I believe the MV's weight / feel is appropriate for it's power ).

I like them both but it's all what you are looking for.

Both great bikes but I am more biased towards my MV (in-line). The V-Twin thing is kind of an acquired thing i think.................
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damnit why did you have to go and write this...lol
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Thanks for coming back to write that Peet, oddly enough I was looking at a Tricolore today! and trying to see why the MV has supposedly the better build quality, the shop keep trying to get me to take the 1098 out, but up to now I have refused

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