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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 04-16-2007, 05:39 PM Thread Starter
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190/55 v 190/50-1000R

I took the plunge today and swapped the Supercorsa pro's for a pair of michelin 2CT's, the rear also needs to go down from a 190/55 to a 190/50, what a difference
I lifted the rear to compensate for the lower profile tyre, the bike is now awesome, doesn't want to stand up if I need to brake midcorner, has loads more rear grip and is very confidence inspiring.

I was hopeing that would be the outcome as I always thought my 1000S was a better handling bike with the 190/50 rear, I'm chuffed

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Thanks. I'm planning on going with a 50 rear and I don't like the Supercorsa too much either.
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I put a 190/50 Diablo Corsa III on the rear of my Brutale 910R. I raised the ride height to compensate and I love the feel of the tire. I have about 1,000 miles on it. It's held up well but I've run it hard - including track time. I'm planning to stay with this tire but might try to find it in a 190/55 for comparison sake.
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I put a 190/50 Diablo Corsa III on the rear of my Brutale 910R. I raised the ride height to compensate and I love the feel of the tire. I have about 1,000 miles on it. It's held up well but I've run it hard - including track time. I'm planning to stay with this tire but might try to find it in a 190/55 for comparison sake.
That would be interesting..........I am not sure whether my Supercorsa slid or 'walked' due to tyre distortion, but on my 'favourite' corner it would progressively move the rear out of line.

I think the Supercorsa would be a better track tyre than a road tyre.

People have said the 'race' supercorsa's in sc1,2 etc are a better tyre.

I have also noticed that a lot of people that say they are happy with the Supercorsa Pro seem to live in warmer climates.

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Mike, have you lowered your front??? If I remeber correctly you did this on your S?
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To be honest I love pirrelis
The only knock is that you MUST warm them up before use (1 to 2.5 km, dependent on the weather)
but once up to temp., they are awsome
I am guessing the warmer temp. guys have a lot less warm up time and they can get right to it. That must be why they like the P's .
My friend (as 80% of most of the riders i know), swear by Michelin. They say it can be used damn near fresh out the gate and stay consitant.
I weigh my options:
A) Do you prefer a tire that takes time to warm up but then provides superior grip and you have to keep on the boil to maintain this performance
or
B) Do you prefer a tire that has excellent grip from the start and consistant run through and through, but it lacks that last 10% of grip (of which you will problaby never use on the street and maybe even on the track for some of us riders).
I choose 'A' personally because I feel that I ride hard enough (street/track) that I can feel when she is cooling off and I perfer that extra grip (even though i may not use the last 5% all the time) and i dont mind waiting to get it.
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Mike, have you lowered your front??? If I remeber correctly you did this on your S?
Yes! by heck you have a good memory

I lowered the front about 7-8mm

And to TreeMV, I prefer to not have to warm tyres up too much as one day I WILL forget after a short stop and end up in a hedge and leave the womens underwear alone-It doesn't suit you

In the UK even on a hot summers day the Power 2CT's will grip better than a SUpercorsa pro--that is IMHO

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I took the plunge today and swapped the Supercorsa pro's for a pair of michelin 2CT's, the rear also needs to go down from a 190/55 to a 190/50, what a difference
I lifted the rear to compensate for the lower profile tyre, the bike is now awesome, doesn't want to stand up if I need to brake midcorner, has loads more rear grip and is very confidence inspiring.

I was hopeing that would be the outcome as I always thought my 1000S was a better handling bike with the 190/50 rear, I'm chuffed
Mike, sorry but I don’t understand the subject.
With the bike leaned, the 190/55 has more surface for grip then the 190/50. So it should have a better grip too. Also the 190/55 due to its “more” conical design is getting leaned quicker. So, quick steering - better handling.

Am I wrong?

Lowering the front and lifting the rear makes the bike’s geometry faster, quicker “quick steering”.
I think you have done an action to make the bike quick and an action to compensate it.


PS. My favourite tires are Bridgestone Battlax BT-002 Pro


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And to TreeMV, I prefer to not have to warm tyres up too much as one day I WILL forget after a short stop and end up in a hedge and leave the womens underwear alone-It doesn't suit you

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Mike, sorry but I don’t understand the subject.
With the bike leaned, the 190/55 has more surface for grip then the 190/50. So it should have a better grip too. Also the 190/55 due to its “more” conical design is getting leaned quicker. So, quick steering - better handling.

Am I wrong?

Lowering the front and lifting the rear makes the bike’s geometry faster, quicker “quick steering”.
I think you have done an action to make the bike quick and an action to compensate it.


PS. My favourite tires are Bridgestone Battlax BT-002 Pro
Yes you are right! a 190/55 SHOULD have more side grip than a 190/50, but I did not find that, I also found the bike wanting to stand up if I braked mid corner, or trail braked into the corner, I much prefer the 190/50 pilot Power 2CT over the 190/55 Supercorsa, now, if Michelin ever make a 2CT 190/55 I may try that

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