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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-22-2009, 10:40 PM Thread Starter
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Ride Height - Lowering F4 1000s 1+1

I kind of mooted this in another thread (unintentionally) and almost had that thread hi-jacked (apologies Stephen Wood).

Thanks for the input from X81, MikeF4Black, SilentService703 & MihaSLO. I have re-read all those posts 10 times each and am still confused when I relate it to the following paragraph.

Anyhow, just to progress this (as I wanted it done) I called an Authorised Service centre to ask them to lower the bike & they said they wouldn't do it as it messes up steering, it will quicken it & will not turn into corners well, that I wouldn't like it, I'd be unhappy & they would just earn a bad reputation out if it.

They pointed to me to a specialised suspension guy at Wallacia (Any of the Sydney guys know him/them?) they are talking Springs etc etc I have no doubt this would get up around the $1k mark.

All this seem strange to me when the factory actually builds a height adjustor into the bike.

There are many far more experienced F4 guys here than I, and your input/ experiences would be very welcome.

I love the way it rides now, it suits me & my riding style very well but I am not comfortable in traffic as I am reaching for the ground, also when a pillion my weight or heavier mounts & dismounts it makes me nervous as I don't have a solid footing, I've almost been pulled over a couple of times already. I am 5'8''ish but with sightly shorter legs than someone my height ( I know that from when I buy pants!)

I am starting too lean towards it's all too hard, I'll just put up with the discomfort & be extra careful with pillons particularily fat ones! and avoid the shitty (city) whenever possible.


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Yes there is a suspension guy in Wallacia who has lowered a friends R6. You can also contact www.zenodamper.com.au who is a suspension guru. I've tweak my stock suspension until my nipples grew!!

PM me if you want to try my setup.

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I am starting too lean towards it's all too hard, I'll just put up with the discomfort & be extra careful with pillons particularily fat ones! and avoid the shitty (city) whenever possible.
Don't give up... It's not all too hard. Check out these pics i posted some time ago.
http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/showth...ht=ride+height

This was the best solution for me. This solution is not for everyone and there has been much previous discussion on the subject.
Basically once i had the suspension tweaked and sorted by a race bike specialist, lowering the front and back the same by this easy quick and easily reversible method has proven to turn the bike from uneasy and nervous to confident and secure.



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Yes there is a suspension guy in Wallacia who has lowered a friends R6. You can also contact www.zenodamper.com.au who is a suspension guru. I've tweak my stock suspension until my nipples grew!!

PM me if you want to try my setup.
I am not sure if I want my nipples to grow but I will give James Gun a call tomorrow and see what he thinks. Thanks for that.

Thanks for the offer, but after reading about your hard landings from wheelies in another thread, I think I'd be scared to Definitely want to catch up for a ride sooner or later.

Thanks heaps for the tip with Zenodamper, looks a good start.


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Don't give up... It's not all too hard. Check out these pics i posted some time ago.
http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/showth...ht=ride+height

This was the best solution for me. This solution is not for everyone and there has been much previous discussion on the subject.
Basically once i had the suspension tweaked and sorted by a race bike specialist, lowering the front and back the same by this easy quick and easily reversible method has proven to turn the bike from uneasy and nervous to confident and secure.



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Thanks Stiv, I just spent the last hour reading that thread and all the associated links and analysing people's thoughts on what they have done.

I am definitely going to look into this now, in fact, tomorrow to be exact as per my reply to minime above.

Thanks for that link to the thread & your comments on your experience with a lowered bike, hopefully I'll be able to add my input sooner rather than later


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Thanks Stiv, I just spent the last hour reading that thread and all the associated links and analysing people's thoughts on what they have done.

I am definitely going to look into this now, in fact, tomorrow to be exact as per my reply to minime above.

Thanks for that link to the thread & your comments on your experience with a lowered bike, hopefully I'll be able to add my input sooner rather than later
Mines dropped 7mm front and rear.
Bike was instantly better for me.........there's a whole thread on it somewhere in here

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Mines dropped 7mm front and rear.
Bike was instantly better for me.........there's a whole thread on it somewhere in here
How did you arrive at the figure of 7mm Pete, was it to do with your height or was there a technical reason for making the change that specific?


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I dropped mine about 8mm (don't remember exactly) and it does feel better at higher lean angles and in corner entry hard on the brakes. Before it would seem to stand on it's nose and then resist turn in, now it is much more as it should be.

Lowering the bike is easy and you don't need a pro to do it for you. You just need to take some reference measurements and then make sure they are the same (minus the amount you loered the bike) after you have finished. Lowering the rear of the bike is done with the threaded rod and the front by sliding the fork tubes up in the yokes.
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How did you arrive at the figure of 7mm Pete, was it to do with your height or was there a technical reason for making the change that specific?
I dropped both of my 1000's around the 7mm mark, as Rob days you can get them into cormers easier and they tend not to stand up as much if you need to brake mid corner

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i need to look into this as i ahte my handling on my f4 on twisty bumpy roads
i've nearly thrown it into the hedge a coupl of times chasing a 2000 gixer 750
not impressed

you could get longer legs by wearing high cut briefs (like women do) lacy numbers look good to me
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