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Opinion on F4 mk 1 value

What do you think can happen talking about F4 mk1 (all models excluding limited editions) value in short, medium and long term now that we have the new model comming?
I'd consider from one side the fact that the new one seems will be cheaper than mk1 (affecting of course used market), but from the other side this could be due to a cheaper build; other considerations could be designer (MT), original make......whatever....
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What exactly do you mean by Mk 1 F4? Are we talking the early 750 pre Evo? or all the F4 varients prior to the 2010 model?


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What exactly do you mean by Mk 1 F4? Are we talking the early 750 pre Evo? or all the F4 varients prior to the 2010 model?
edited the first post. I mean all F4 with the Tamburini design excluding limited editions. 750/1000s/r/312.....

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What do you think can happen talking about F4 mk1 (all models excluding limited editions) value in short, medium and long term now that we have the new model comming?
I'd consider from one side the fact that the new one seems will be cheaper than mk1 (affecting of course used market), but from the other side this could be due to a cheaper build; other considerations could be designer (MT), original make......whatever....
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Me thinks it won't be over 14,000 as the all new Aprilla V4 which is a great bike is only 12,500, well thats in the UK any way.
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I think it's hard to say until the new bike are actually in show rooms or at least until the press gives a preliminary. Report which would be February.

But in think the big short term problem for the MKI bikes are the discounts on current 312RRs. If I hadn't got a new bike in April, I think I may have gotten a 312RR for the $20k price they're selling them for.
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I have a 2000 F4. One of the first ones to arrive in SA. It cost me a lot then. I had it serviced last month ready for a few rides in summer.
It has <6000km on the clock - it runs like a Rolex.

I will never sell it - someone will have to prise it from my cold dead hands.

I also have an 1988 851 'kit' Tricolour and a '07 1098 Tricolour - I feel the same way about them.

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I am not convinced that modern manufacturing methods are better than the 'old days' but at 61 what would I know?

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In theory, F4 mk1 price should not depend from success of the newer one...

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In theory, F4 mk1 price should not depend from success of the newer one...
The short term scenario I had in mine was that flocks of MK1 owners would sell their MVs for the new one. So, you'd have a bunch of heavily discounted dealer left overs and pre-owned bikes pushing the MK1 market down.

On the other hand, to the average Joe, the differences between MK1 and MK2 are so small that they'd pick up a MK1 F4 for the price of a new Japanese 600 and then prices stablize again.

By the way, what' the going price for a used 2007 F4R and 2008 312R? I vaguely recall the 2006 S was hovering around $12 to $10K when Blavenia was trying to sell his about a year ago.
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Seems to me like in the past 12 months all brands of used bikes took a pretty good drop in value because people just don't have the cash for play things like they used i.e. too much supply and not enough demand.

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I was afraid about the price of the new one; a cheaper price would automatically affect the MK1. Now they are talking about 18.500 euro; quite expensive. I think that the ealier F4 will keep their value well.....not so sure about late 312.
But the question is like you say Allan.....much depends about what many F4 owners will do now; if many selling their F4, quikly, to get a new one.

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