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post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 03-31-2019, 11:40 PM Thread Starter
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Florida. I think I have seen that seller on ebay. Came close to buying a few things, but it seemed a bit strange so pulled out.
If you can't get it resolved.
Put your old engine number on it if you are ditching the old one.
Hi Glenno. Yes strange indeed, on many levels. I may yet tell all if I don't get a satisfactory conclusion
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It might be possible to raise the engine number with acid
How does this work Tony?

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I agree Noell, but I hardly want all the trouble of being told to send it back for a refund!
PayPal will refund your money including shipping........
Make sure in your complaint that you show the serial number has been obliterated
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Here is an article about the process:

Evidence Technology Magazine - Raising the Numbers

or if you google:

"how to raise ground off engine numbers" or something similar there is further info.

I've never had cause to try it so all care no responsibility!
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If its had the numbers ground off there could be a possibility that's its stolen? if so does the seller really know what he has sold, as Noel said a very good case for paypal money back and may even be able to keep the goods. Then you can rebuild your lump or put the original numbers on it. All sounds a little dodgy to me.

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@SCRINCH3R ... please do tell us what response you get from your questioning the seller.

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It might be possible to raise the engine number with acid but ask the vendor politely for an explanation before doing anything else. If you don't like the answer follow all four of your listed options.

Customs cant have checked for a number when it entered the country otherwise they might not have allowed it in.


US Customs usually does outbound inspections of vehicles and parts for stolen property. You can contact Customs and Border Protection at the Port where it was shipped from. Give them the Bill of lading and shipper and consignee info and they may be able to give you some insight as to if it was inspected or not. My thought is that it probably wasn't because they would not let a motor with tampered numeration leave the country.
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If its had the numbers ground off there could be a possibility that's its stolen? if so does the seller really know what he has sold . . .
The seller MUST know. As I mentioned in previous post, he must have conducted checks prior to purchasing said motor or complete bike. It's part of establishing the price offered/paid.

The crucial point though is that he has a RESPONSIBILITY both moral and legal to not pass off goods that could suspectedly be stolen. This is no different to selling the old Rolex to the boys down the pub.

Further, if this was MY engine that's being ferried around the world with obliterated identification, I would hope to hell someone would take the legal route to restore MY property, no matter its condition.

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There are some really unscrupulous individuals out there, I took time to look at an Yamaha IT465 basket case last week from a 'friend' of a friend, told it was original but had no engine number or docs which he had no clue about, or so he said. I checked the frame number with the DVLA and it did not exist!!?? obviously I walked, but to some less conscious individual this may have not been picked up....

I hope it gets resolved soon, keep us in the loop.
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. . . I took time to look at an Yamaha IT465 basket case last week from a 'friend' of a friend, told it was original but had no engine number or docs which he had no clue about, or so he said. . .
Precisely. These 'opportunists' will have the greatest spiel ever when it comes to selling, but as soon as they're sprung, they're beset by silence, mumbles and stuttering.

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