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post #81 of 89 (permalink) Old 03-08-2019, 10:36 AM Thread Starter
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Sounds a great event, but that sounds like a US reference, I can't imagine this would have been shipped back to the UK, sure that wasn't a different US bike in the same colours?

The charity event was organised by the UK distributor.

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post #82 of 89 (permalink) Old 03-09-2019, 10:10 PM
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I am certain that that is the bike. Saw Ago sign it. Yes the bike was tracked by Ago himself at Laguna Seca on the way to Half Moon Bay. Phil Read was also involved in the ride. He was on a CC. Check with Cycle World. I have the issue that documents the adventure. Also search this forum under legends Half Moon Bay. The original admin of this sight has documented the ride from Carmel.
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Well there you have it. Tracked bike. Offer half.
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Surely you are taking the piss? Track write off maybe, but alittle track time doesn't hurt them.

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post #86 of 89 (permalink) Old 03-10-2019, 12:58 AM Thread Starter
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If that is the bike, surely it gives it a little more provenance

Is there a numberplate visible in the article. Iíll do a search,

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Personally I'd go for the Tamburini which is my favourite of all F4 for many reasons, being a 1st gen, color scheme, tech specs, its name and history of course, and visually the most perfect of all F4, for me. But in the end it's a personal choice and you covered pretty much everything and then the other members covered even more and made this thread really interesting. All MV have their special factors which any one can argue makes it "best". I just prefer the Tamburini because I do, not because it is "the" best based on objective specs or value (even if its value seems to hold in time).
If you are not sure about Senna or 1078, and if pros and cons are pretty much neutering each other, I'd just go for the best specimen you can find. Maybe you'll find a pristine, well owned and maintained, low mileage Senna just after checking on a not so good 1078, and vice-versa. Finding the "right" one is of utter importance in MV ownership as I think we'll all agree and in the end it's with that that you'll live afterwards.
So... go with your heart and don't rush. In my experience, patience pays. I dreamed for 6 years before affording and finding my (basic, not limited series) F4 1000s. Not 16 years but still a long wait, and it payed.

About the value of these limited MV, my take is they maintain their value well but I'm not seing a significant increase in value, at least not with Tamburini and Ago, as should be expected according to the classics market in general. We've seen and incredible valuation of many machines, both cars and bikes, these last years, namely but not only because people see them more and more as an investment, but Claudio/Tamburini era MV are not seeing that valuation yet, only mantaining their prices.
Sometimes I see one at higher prices but it's just someone trying its luck, as other lower mileage examples can be found at their normal prices. I hope we'll see the increase in value that those machines deserve. Maybe when they are 20 years old+.
Good luck and keep us posted!
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Thanks Arnould, ,

Sorry just saw your post now! You're correct. I have made some offers, I have one up my sleeve that I've been leaning towards but for various reasons out of my control I'm not quite ready to move on that one, in the meantime I'm happy to continue with not rushing in to anything, the right one will come along whatever that may be

I go through phases of questioning the value of the specials. Seeing as I ride and won't be storing them in a bubble they will suffer depreciation and acquire a gentle kind of patina that may erode the value of a special, at which point it will be special to me but not to the collector who would be prepared to pay the higher prices they can command. Which means I will likely take a hit on whatever I buy, the dearer the bike the bigger this may be as a 1078 has far less to lose than a Special with many spare parts being cheaper rather than unobtainable!! The Senna is a halfway house, but it is also neither one nor the other, it is technically inferior to the 1078 without the redeeming additional components that say the Tambo has, such as the TSS and mag parts to help compensate. That said, it is still a wonderful looking bike which should have a solid residual as long as I don't overpay in the first place. The current examples I find to be too high in the market for what they offer. I flit from one day to the next. The specials are a stretch and one needs to be able to justify that in ones own mind, when there are other competing priorities in life the desire needs to be strong and here I find the sensible brain competes with the heart and the heart isn't fully won over on that just yet.

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Thanks Arnould, ,

Sorry just saw your post now! You're correct. I have made some offers, I have one up my sleeve that I've been leaning towards but for various reasons out of my control I'm not quite ready to move on that one, in the meantime I'm happy to continue with not rushing in to anything, the right one will come along whatever that may be <img src="http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />

I go through phases of questioning the value of the specials. Seeing as I ride and won't be storing them in a bubble they will suffer depreciation and acquire a gentle kind of patina that may erode the value of a special, at which point it will be special to me but not to the collector who would be prepared to pay the higher prices they can command. Which means I will likely take a hit on whatever I buy, the dearer the bike the bigger this may be as a 1078 has far less to lose than a Special with many spare parts being cheaper rather than unobtainable!! The Senna is a halfway house, but it is also neither one nor the other, it is technically inferior to the 1078 without the redeeming additional components that say the Tambo has, such as the TSS and mag parts to help compensate. That said, it is still a wonderful looking bike which should have a solid residual as long as I don't overpay in the first place. The current examples I find to be too high in the market for what they offer. I flit from one day to the next. The specials are a stretch and one needs to be able to justify that in ones own mind, when there are other competing priorities in life the desire needs to be strong and here I find the sensible brain competes with the heart and the heart isn't fully won over on that just yet.

In the meantime...



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That's a pretty good chart that says it all.
I wasn't supposed to buy mine if based on priorities but the heck with it. There's plenty of time to focus on priorities and it's much more pleasurable to do it with your dream bike in the garage. I also ride it much more than I should if I cared about its value (meaning lots of miles), but that's what they were made for, limited edition or not.
In the end there's something really special about using impractical, rare and expensive exotic super bikes.
A friend of mine has a Tamburini, an Agostini and a RC. He never, ever used any of them. He keeps asking me what it feels like to actually ride mine and I keep telling him: just use yours and you'll know. Diferent mindsets I guess.
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