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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-20-2018, 03:06 PM Thread Starter
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Clutch differences

What is the main difference between the clutches, brutale uses four springs and F4 six, but are they otherwise interchangeable?
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What is the main difference between the clutches, brutale uses four springs and F4 six, but are they otherwise interchangeable?
Depends on year and actual model, but most of the clutches will interchange as long as primary gear ratio is the same. The transmission shaft is the key. If that part is the same and the primary tooth count is the same then the clutch fits.

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750 clutch baskets only fit 750s......the primary gear ratio is different
Slipper clutch hubs are a larger diameter and have a different number of teeth, so early
friction plates won't fit
Ask me how I know.....I bought a slipper without plates or discs

The splines on all mainshafts are the same

I have an SPR gearbox (750) in my 1000S with a late slipper clutch
It's coming out and going in my '08 motor with an '09 head

I just did a thread about transmission ratios, it's in the 4 cylinder section

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750 clutch baskets only fit 750s......the primary gear ratio is different
Slipper clutch hubs are a larger diameter and have a different number of teeth, so early
friction plates won't fit
Ask me how I know.....I bought a slipper without plates or discs

The splines on all mainshafts are the same

I have an SPR gearbox (750) in my 1000S with a late slipper clutch
It's coming out and going in my '08 motor with an '09 head

I just did a thread about transmission ratios, it's in the 4 cylinder section
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Thanks again.

I was afraid it might be so, cos i bought an 910 brutie motor without the clutch..... Just have to source an 910 complete clutch then. Visually they look the same, not including the spring count.

Was thinking of putting my 750 F4 box on it, but since its so low mileage motor, i best stick with the box it comes with, and buy a complete stock clutch.
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No...... I just want things my way......
Probably take 6th gear out of the SPR box and put a standard 6th in.....
Close ratio 5 speed with overdrive

Why not?

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Thanks again.

I was afraid it might be so, cos i bought an 910 brutie motor without the clutch..... Just have to source an 910 complete clutch then. Visually they look the same, not including the spring count.

Was thinking of putting my 750 F4 box on it, but since its so low mileage motor, i best stick with the box it comes with, and buy a complete stock clutch.
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Please pay attention.....
https://www.mvagusta.net/forum/153-g...on-ratios.html

Your 750 and the 910 have the same transmission......
Any 910, 1000 or 1078 1st Gen clutch will work the later ones will be slipper clutches
The parts might not interchange, but the entire clutch will drop right on

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So i cant use my 750 F4 clutch on the 910 engine... I got it now i think.

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Bought an complete 910 clutch of Ebay for 68 euros. So thats sorted!

Next is the starter, the 910 uses the later starter, and it does not come with it either, so does my old 750 starter do the job?
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Now you're getting it, your 750 clutch basket won't work
Your 750 starter is probably identical, just lube the O-ring and stick it in
Retorque the oil pan bolts while it's easy
You'll need to change the rear water manifold, oil filter mount and add the stupid heat exchanger
Inspect the valves and reseal the F4 cover and both sides of the valve cover....I know
what the manual says.....fuck them.....want to do it twice????
Inspect the vacuum lines to the throttle bodies for cracks

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