Here's my deal: 2008 312R for $20,000 out the door. - MVAgusta.net
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post #1 of 55 (permalink) Old 04-15-2009, 10:17 PM Thread Starter
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Here's my deal: 2008 312R for $20,000 out the door.

That includes 9.25% CA sales tax and registration. On the surface it sounds like a no brainer but here's the full story.

-2008 312R Black/white mono: $20,000 OTD
-2006 F4S trade-in: $8,800. Why? Because it reflects the $1,200 for the 7,500 service. If I already paid for the service, the trade would be $10,000.

I don't really want to do a private sale unless it's over $12,500 since I'd be paying $1,200 for the service anyway and because I really hate private sales because of all the tire kickers, people who just want to ride the bike, and last minute low ballers (you know the type that say I'll take it for $12,000 but when they show up, they're $500 short). That said....

Think I should pull the trigger on the 312 or just hold on to my F4S for another year or two? In terms of my F4, it may be down for another two or three weeks due to a radiator crack but Cagiva USA did say they would honor the warranty even though it's expired.


PS: I don't think the $20K OTD for a 312 is exclusive to me. If you want one, let me know and I'll set you up. It's an easier decision for me if someone else takes the 312. And keep in mind that's with a CA sale tax of 9.25%.
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So, without the 9.25% CA sales tax, that's about $18,000.
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In all honesty I've had this discussion in my own head over and over again.

If you have an S but want the latest and greatest, by all means go for the 312R.

Here's how I feel.

I like the S. It's THE original and every F4 1000 will have evolved from the S. The S represents a point in history when MV finally stepped up and pulled their finger out. lol So the S gets tons of respect for what it represented at that time. Kind of like the Ducati 916.

If I had an MV 1000R, then I'd go ahead and get the 312.

Plus I can't get over the STAR Wheels. The new wheels on all the new models just ruins it for me.

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Yep I have to agree with Turbo. The 312R just isn't $11200 better than your 1000S.

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i say wait till the end of the year

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my decision is to keep my 06--for one thing, i like the matte black finish, and also there's about $5k in work on it. i know in my heart that if i bought a new stock bike, i wouldn't be happy until i spent ANOTHER $5k on carbon fiber, exhaust etc. so any price i negotiate, i'd have to add $5k to it...

do i'll keep it. but i understand your really wanting a new bike too. any chance you'll consider a second bike? like maybe a monster or brutale for around town? you've got the f4--a new f4 wouldn't really bring much to the table that you don't have now. me for instance, i'm getting the new bmw k1300gt. totally different bike--like have a ferrari (mv) and a x5 (k1300gt) in the garage--complete package.
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my decision is to keep my 06--for one thing, i like the matte black finish, and also there's about $5k in work on it. i know in my heart that if i bought a new stock bike, i wouldn't be happy until i spent ANOTHER $5k on carbon fiber, exhaust etc. so any price i negotiate, i'd have to add $5k to it...

do i'll keep it. but i understand your really wanting a new bike too. any chance you'll consider a second bike? like maybe a monster or brutale for around town? you've got the f4--a new f4 wouldn't really bring much to the table that you don't have now. me for instance, i'm getting the new bmw k1300gt. totally different bike--like have a ferrari (mv) and a x5 (k1300gt) in the garage--complete package.
+1

That new BMW 1300S is sweet! I wouldn't mind having one of those in the ol' stable.

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my decision is to keep my 06--for one thing, i like the matte black finish, and also there's about $5k in work on it. i know in my heart that if i bought a new stock bike, i wouldn't be happy until i spent ANOTHER $5k on carbon fiber, exhaust etc. so any price i negotiate, i'd have to add $5k to it...

do i'll keep it. but i understand your really wanting a new bike too. any chance you'll consider a second bike? like maybe a monster or brutale for around town? you've got the f4--a new f4 wouldn't really bring much to the table that you don't have now. me for instance, i'm getting the new bmw k1300gt. totally different bike--like have a ferrari (mv) and a x5 (k1300gt) in the garage--complete package.
Well, I did consider adding a second bike (like an 848 or Monster) but I'm not riding enough to really justify having two. That's sort of what happened with the Tricolore. I ride to work almost every day and it was just getting used like once a week.
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i say wait till the end of the year
That is the most logical and rational decision! Looks like I'm paying for the 7,500 service where I keep my bike or trade-in and not to mention I'm the guy who keeps saying Milan 2009 will be the year of the new bike!!!

And I think the biggest problem is there's the rational side of me saying, you already have an MV, you don't need one, and even if you do - why now? But then, MV lust isn't very rational and $20K OTD for a 312 is like $8K off. I think, in CA, a 312 would be a bit over $28K at full MSRP - which is what the 1078 F4 will be since most are on a pre-order basis.

I thought of taking to a Shrink about this MV complusion, but unless he had an MV, he won't be able to relate. And, if I found one with an MV, he'd probably say get it.
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If I had an MV 1000R, then I'd go ahead and get the 312.

Plus I can't get over the STAR Wheels. The new wheels on all the new models just ruins it for me.
I'm not to found of the black wheels either which is part of my reasoning for looking at the pearl white/black F4. At least the lower half is consistently dark. Not found of the 1078's paint schemes also. My guess is the traditional colors and lighter colored wheels will make a comeback when the new bike comes out.
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